Do you expect Zorn to be fired

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Warpath
10-11-2009, 09:08 PM
Zorn will make it through the season (was 3rd yes vote) because firing him during the season doesn't accomplish anything. If you have to do something DS fire Vinny, hire a GM, and lets start this thing over.

CRedskinsRule
10-11-2009, 09:14 PM
I think I am one of the more ardent Zorn supporters here (maybe not, whatever) but this loss may be the nail in the coffin. Not because we lost to an 0fer team AGAIN, but because, we had the lead, the offense capitalized on mistakes, and after the half, this team Offense and Defense came out dead. That is coaching, and players. I know the Front Office has a lot of the blame, but, the fact is that this team lost the game on the field, and it should have and could have won it, and that is the case with most every game in this past 2 year stretch.

Beemnseven
10-11-2009, 09:17 PM
I think I am one of the more ardent Zorn supporters here (maybe not, whatever) but this loss may be the nail in the coffin. Not because we lost to an 0fer team AGAIN, but because, we had the lead, the offense capitalized on mistakes, and after the half, this team Offense and Defense came out dead. That is coaching, and players. I know the Front Office has a lot of the blame, but, the fact is that this team lost the game on the field, and it should have and could have won it, and that is the case with most every game in this past 2 year stretch.

Let's not forget though, that the two TDs came off Panther turnovers deep in their territory. Without those, we'd have 3 points.

As for Zorn, this decline would have happened even if Joe Gibbs were still coaching. The veteran core group of Samuels, Thomas, Rabach, Moss, Randle El, Portis, Griffin, Daniels, and Rogers just isn't very good anymore. The experienced, highly-paid vets are getting old, and the younger guys are lackluster or just flat haven't produced.

The deterioration of this roster is NOT Jim Zorn's fault.

tryfuhl
10-11-2009, 09:24 PM
I'd say let Zorn finish out the year and figure what we have in our backups... but those two just don't go together

too many overpaid old guys killing out decent backups.. and a coach who needs to win

GMScud
10-11-2009, 09:27 PM
Adam Schefter just reported that the writing is on the wall for Zorn- he will be fired, it's just a matter of when. If Snyder, Cerrato, the fans, the players, the media, and everyone else knows Zorn is a lame duck, why not just fire him now? It's pretty unprofessional and unfair to Zorn and the players to keep plodding on knowing what's gonna happen regardless. Eff the charade. He's knows he's done, why should anyone believe he won't just go through the motions this week and let another winless team off the hook against KC? If anything, maybe a fresh voice in the locker room can stir up some emotion in this hapless, gutless team.

skinsfan_nn
10-11-2009, 09:29 PM
Its in Mr. Gibbs part of the county and all, but Danny is getting his advise (From someone with a BRAIN)...COME ON BACK JOE! ;)

Snyder had dinner with Gibbs last night
Posted by Mike Florio on October 11, 2009 8:12 PM ET
Though it's surely not a precursor to another return to the sidelines in D.C., we're told that Redskins owner Daniel Snyder had dinner Saturday night with two-time former coach Joe Gibbs.

Per a league source, Snyder still consults with Gibbs, who retired for a second time after the 2007 season, about the team. And we've got a feeling that the two men at some point discussed the best way to navigate a disappointing season in D.C.

Some still believe that Snyder also consults with Mike Shanahan; a team source has flatly denied that contention. And as to lingering rumors that Shanahan will be the next coach of the team, Peter King reported on NBC's Football Night In America that Shanahan definitely will not taking a head-coaching job anywhere during the 2009 season, but that Shanahan will jump back into the fray in January.

It makes plenty of sense. Shanahan has less leverage if only one team wants him; he'll have plenty of leverage come January, if multiple teams come calling.

duetsch215
10-11-2009, 09:33 PM
Adam Schefter reports that Zorn WILL be fired mid-season and the only question is when.

tryfuhl
10-11-2009, 09:37 PM
Its in Mr. Gibbs part of the county and all, but Danny is getting his advise (From someone with a BRAIN)...COME ON BACK JOE! ;)

Snyder had dinner with Gibbs last night
Posted by Mike Florio on October 11, 2009 8:12 PM ET
Though it's surely not a precursor to another return to the sidelines in D.C., we're told that Redskins owner Daniel Snyder had dinner Saturday night with two-time former coach Joe Gibbs.

Per a league source, Snyder still consults with Gibbs, who retired for a second time after the 2007 season, about the team. And we've got a feeling that the two men at some point discussed the best way to navigate a disappointing season in D.C.

Some still believe that Snyder also consults with Mike Shanahan; a team source has flatly denied that contention. And as to lingering rumors that Shanahan will be the next coach of the team, Peter King reported on NBC's Football Night In America that Shanahan definitely will not taking a head-coaching job anywhere during the 2009 season, but that Shanahan will jump back into the fray in January.

It makes plenty of sense. Shanahan has less leverage if only one team wants him; he'll have plenty of leverage come January, if multiple teams come calling.

hell no

i love gibbs but he in charge of personnel traded more picks than vinny and whatnot

idk

i don't even know what to think now

rstone1979
10-11-2009, 09:44 PM
I don't blame Zorn. I blame Cerrato and Snyder for the whole mess. And boy what a mess they've made for themselves. Kills me thinking about wasting our 2 #2s last year on non existant WR's. We coulda had atleast 1 OL. I say let B Mitch coach em up.

Im all for that!!

TheSmurfs22
10-11-2009, 09:45 PM
This team has so many areas of dysfunction, firing the coach is just a small beginning to what really needs to be done to get this team back on track. Some players should be looking over their shoulders as well.

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Agreed. Bringing in another coach is not going to solve this problem. It is time to clean house in the locker room and in the front office.

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