Who would you get rid of for 2010?

I know this thread isn't supposed to account for salary cap issues, but celts raises a very good point. We need to take advantage of an uncapped 2010.

- Andre Carter - Orakpo needs to move to the full time RDE, forget the SLB. Carter may have some trade value for a draft pick.
- Randy Thomas - Injuries have taken their toll. We must dump his contract in the uncapped year.
- Portis - Others have metnioned several good reasons, plus I can think of $10M more.
- Todd Collins - Weak armed game managers don't get paid $ 3.5M / yr.
- Betts - no production, no upside.
- Davis - I think this guy has potential, but unless we have a coaching change that's going to employ a ton of 2TE sets and actually get the second TE the ball, Davis is a waste. He has trade value, get a pick for him.
- Cartwright - no production
- Daniels - old, slow
- Colt Brennan - the Cult was fun for a while, but getting outplayed by a 5' 10" rookie says it all.
- Moss - but only in a trade for at least a 2nd round pick. He can still be productive.
- Smoot - slow, major liability in man coverage.
- ARE - $ 5M / yr. is way too much for a 3rd or fourth receiver that has no value in the return game

I'm holding on to Landry. The point about him missing tackles is fair. The point about GW mentioning he was a sure tackler is also a valid point. Why the contradiction? Landry is a good tackler near the LoS, not particluarly good in space, IMO.

The jury is currently deliberating on JC. We'll find out over the next few weeks. If he continues the same level of play as the last two weeks, he will need to go and will likely have very little or no value.

Even if JC goes, IMO it is time to find a replacement for Samuels in the first round of the 2010 draft. He's slowing down and is getting beaten more frequently off the edge. Rabach will be serviceable for another year, Rinehart, Heyer, Dock should be fine. If we're able to get a high caliber LT, Samuels should be shopped after the pick.


Yeah I have to agree with you on all the above, even Colt. Why we released Daniel and kept Colt was moronic, but it is all a moot issue now. Brennan was a late rounder for a reason.

Easy one:

1. Vinny Cerranto has got to go! Dude where did you learn to put together a team and coaches! This is awful, there's a long road to hoe to rebuild this team and clean up your mess... I would say Danny Synder (excuse me, Mr. Synder) but I don't think that he would let the team go unfortunately! Sell it Danny! Sell it PLEASE!!!

2. Zorny. Hmmm. There's a reason that you were QB coach for 10+ years in Seattle. Head coach is WAY over your head! that's all I have to say about that. Y'all no what's up.

3. Campbell - the last chance from me at the beginning of the year had officially expired at the end of the first half of the Tampa game last week. You'll be great somewhere, but not in DC.

4. Portis. Too many injuries way too much of a liability right now. We need some fresh feet to juk and dodge, but not to batter like he's been doing.


Can't cut JC if you can help it. Collins is going to take off/get released and then you are just stuck with Brennan, who is a disaster waiting to happen in my book. Need someone with starting experience. Portis still can produce, upgrade the line and he will get his groove back somewhat. Zorn is good as gone. Mr. Snyder brought him here as a last resort, as the "sexy" HC candidates stayed out.

i need we need to clear our cap in 2010. With the new cba that will be in place after 2010 it will be harder to have big numbers on the contract. Being an uncapped year, it will be best to do it this year. I am not stupid and know next to none of this will actually happen, but if we we can for cap reasons trade haynesworth (and maybe hall, but I think he might be too important to get rid of) and get rid of portis I think it will be extremely beneficial. I think we need to scrap our team and start anew. I think we need to draft a qb next year and get rid of campbell. I think our team is a joke as it is, and we need to start over which we won't be able to do unless we free up some cap space. This is because we don't have enough young talent to build purely through the draft, so we will need to pick up some key (young) free agents to help us along.

You think we should draft a QB? Who the hell is A QB? If you want them to draft a QB you better have a damn name. Didnt they draft JC and Colt? So you want to go out and draft just A QB. That would be just brilliant to draft A QB.

Who would I get RID of for 2010:
Offense
1.Betts ( On the decline makes to much for a back up)
2.R.Thomas ( Injuires, age)
3.ARE (salary,limited production on PR)
4.Rabach (limited run blocker)

Defense
1.Daniels ( age, limited edge rusher)
2.Griffin ( age, salary,injuires , production decline)
3.Smoot ( lost a step, salary, young DB's on roster)
4.Rogers ( contract year , if he wants to much don't over spend)

Special Teams
1.Rock ( solid but limited on big returns, DT can replace)
2.Danny Smith? ( last time special teams return TD? Oh Moss vs Lions 2008)

Quarter Back
1. JC (Needs to stay has upside, Draft class not to promising, free agents not better than JC)
2. Collins ( Take a pay cut or release)
3.Colt ( Show he can be a backup QB)

I would cut Portis first. If 2010 is uncapped they need to take advantage of it and cut every player they have with a bad contract. This CBA mess could be a real advantage to the Redskins in terms of fixing thier salary cap. Its a real opportunity for the next coach to start with a clean slate. I really hope thats the way they look at it as opposed to trying to load up for a half assed title run.

I like this idea of cutting guys without taking penalties for thier contract because of the uncapped year. This would be heaven sent for several guys ARE, Portis, Andre Carter, Moss (id keep him, but his contract crazy), and Randy Thomas (he is gone away). If no penalty is the case, we would be crazy not to get rid of these guys for a fresh start. Look to the draft to build the team. We also need to resign Rocky and ill catch some heat for this but Carlos too to reasonable contracts. Anybody suggesting we cut Landry is crazy.

Everybody with a huge contract that doesnt produce..
Its time to completely rebuild...that means an oline, and a franchise qb

Can't cut JC if you can help it. Collins is going to take off/get released and then you are just stuck with Brennan, who is a disaster waiting to happen in my book. Need someone with starting experience. Portis still can produce, upgrade the line and he will get his groove back somewhat. Zorn is good as gone. Mr. Snyder brought him here as a last resort, as the "sexy" HC candidates stayed out.

No need to cut JC. His contract is up. He'll make a fine backup elsewhere. And none of the elite teams in the NFL would re-sign an aging RB with the wear and tear Portis has. Time to start doing as the better franchises do.

New QB, new GM, new coach.

#1 Portis - and I hate saying that because I have been a very big supporter of him the past few years. I think he can still grind it and get 100 a game, but just for the simple fact that his act seems to be wearing thin in the locker room.

#2 Randel El - I really think he is just not needed. Overpaid #3 receiver.

#3 Moss - I dont think he is a #1 receiver in this league. he never seems to get open on a regular basis. I look at Andre Johnson, Randy Moss, TO, Steve Smith all the #1's in the league and they always find a way to get 4 to 7 balls a game. We do NOT have a #1 on the roster. We haven't won with him there, so why keep trying.

#4 Carter - were giving him big money and he hasn't been a consistant performer since getting here. another overpaid player that is average at best. He is suppose to be a rush end, he doesn't generate a lot of pressure and doesn't play the run very well, so really why keep him.

#5 Griffin - has been a really good player for us for a number of years, but we need to get younger. Montgomery and Golston played well last year, give the job to one of them, or rotate them with Hayensworth.

I am not saying Campbell - I think he has the ability to be an effective QB and win some games. If he were to ever get comfortable in a system and just be able to play on instinct instead of having to learn a new system every year or two i think he could be a very good QB. He has the arm, the mobility and the willingness to work hard, study and wants to be good. The determination he has shown to learn and be THE GUY is impressive to me. Those are the kinds of players I want on my team.

I guess I should have put this at the top, but my #1 overall would be the combination of Snyder of Cerato, they would be gone if I had the ability to get people out

So you guys want to basically fire everyone, cut everyone, trade everyone but will be bitching and complaining about how badly we suck again. Odd.

i think it depends on if you believe we are closer to success than failure. Personally, I don't think we're "one or two guys" away from being a contender. I think you need a certain culture to consistently win and we have some players that need to go in order for that to happen. To me, model franchises are Pats, Chargers, Eagles(just threw up in my mouth) and Steelers. What they have in common is that one player is never bigger than the team, they build wisely through the draft and they don't sentimentally hang on to players. It hasn't wo the Chargers or Eagles a superbowl, but they've been quality teams now for what, last 5-6 years? I'd take that over this clusterfuck any day.

Betts, Rock, Daniels, Smoot, Collins

Betts not productive anymore. Will probably be 31 next year.
Rock is not a difference maker will be 31 next year. DT can take his place.
Daniels getting old. Need to let some young guys get a chance so we can build our D-line for the future.
Smoot - If Barnes and Tryon develop. He is on the decline.
Collins - Old - If we get rid of him we could sign JC as a backup (why? it will be a uncapped seson - depends on if we are still running the WCO and how he does the rest of the year) and bring in or draft another QB and have Colt as the 3rd QB.
I doubt that happens. I'm sure JC is tired of all the BS that has gone on here and most likely thinks he's starting material. I'll bet he goes elswhere to start knowing the team wants to make him a backup. They might get away with it with a new HC saying the position is up for grabs and make him the back up.