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Defensewins 10-09-2009, 04:11 PM They won there Superbowl with Strahan and Shockey on the team though. And Tiki retired on his own. So i dont know what your getting at.
Strahan retired after the last SB, Barber retired the year before the Sb year and Shockey was injured and did not play that year. TE Boss was the TE in the SB year.
The Goat 10-09-2009, 04:12 PM I like most of the comments in this thread...some really good points are: CP creates these little situations and they almost always blow over. Last year when he called out the oline that group responded w/ more vigor on the field, until injury demolished the group later in the season.
My take: Sellers has a lot of pride, meaning a lot of football pride. He's not gonna take shit from CP and he certainly knows he's had a down season to this pt (admitted his monster screw up on the dropped TD). So...expect Sellers to come out swinging over the next several games at least. CP will probably do the same i bet. The running game is better because of the little tiff.
Ruhskins 10-09-2009, 04:14 PM I like most of the comments in this thread...some really good points are: CP creates these little situations and they almost always blow over. Last year when he called out the oline that group responded w/ more vigor on the field, until injury demolished the group later in the season.
My take: Sellers has a lot of pride, meaning a lot of football pride. He's not gonna take shit from CP and he certainly knows he's had a down season to this pt (admitted his monster screw up on the dropped TD). So...expect Sellers to come out swinging over the next several games at least. CP will probably do the same i bet. The running game is better because of the little tiff.
Hopefully he won't come out swinging at CP during games. LOL.
freddyg12 10-09-2009, 04:18 PM I like most of the comments in this thread...some really good points are: CP creates these little situations and they almost always blow over. Last year when he called out the oline that group responded w/ more vigor on the field, until injury demolished the group later in the season.
My take: Sellers has a lot of pride, meaning a lot of football pride. He's not gonna take shit from CP and he certainly knows he's had a down season to this pt (admitted his monster screw up on the dropped TD). So...expect Sellers to come out swinging over the next several games at least. CP will probably do the same i bet. The running game is better because of the little tiff.
Hopefully. Zorn is certainly trying to spin it like that. My fear is that w/all of the angst that's around them, this issue has broader implications.
WaldSkins 10-09-2009, 04:20 PM Strahan retired after the last SB, Barber retired the year before the Sb year and Shockey was injured and did not play that year. TE Boss was the TE in the SB year.
So Strahan and Shockey won a superbowl with the Giants then.
It's not like they got rid of these players, two retired and one got traded.
53Fan 10-09-2009, 04:21 PM I may be wrong, but wasn't it about this time last year Portis kinda called out the OLine. And after that everyone kinda got on the same page? It seems like this is one of our silly little dysfunctions that every family has...
I guess everyone's on edge and maybe they can air this out, pull together, and put this behind them, but if I'm tired of hearing his s**t, I imagine his team mates are too. Portis needs to concentrate on staying on his feet and finding the hole so he's not running into the backs of his o-line and falling down from "phantom" tackles.
The Goat 10-09-2009, 04:22 PM Hopefully he won't come out swinging at CP during games. LOL.
Haha i thought of that too. Zorn's got a point tho when he says these guys can handle this situation...or something to that effect. I still don't worry about the running game as much as the lack of production by the WR corp. I hope Lewis is working extensively w/ Kelly and Thomas this week and from here out. I get the feeling w/ some good coaching we could see those two begin to replicate what we see from young wideouts on other teams: some solid route-running, getting separation, and better body positioning. Up to this point they both look like they just play catch all practice.
GusFrerotte 10-09-2009, 04:54 PM That's what they used to say about the Giants with all the bickering they would have under Coughlin...look at them now
Thing is the Gmen have a decent FO, seem to have a solid plan in how to build a winner. Shoot we brought Gibbs back for gosh sakes and we still failed at building a perennial winner. Can't expect the same result when dealing with two different "test sample". Coughlin is a tested FA and cap era HC, while Zorn was to be honest a desperation pick as the high profile guys stayed put. Coughlin has the FO behind him, while the Skins FO will eat their young so to speak.
Longtimefan 10-09-2009, 05:00 PM in most places of work, people are not only unhappy when someone doesn't do their job, but they're really incensed when that same person that avoids their duties (read CP) is the one calling others out to mgmt.
What is truly irritating to many people is the fact it's always the same guy. When there's controversy (regardless of it's nature) and it always centers around the same person people take notice, and eventually come to the conclusion something must be amis. It's usually not long before the centerpiece is recognized for what it truly is.....A distraction.
SFREDSKIN 10-09-2009, 05:52 PM What is truly irritating to many people is the fact it's always the same guy. When there's controversy (regardless of it's nature) and it always centers around the same person people take notice, and eventually come to the conclusion something must be amis. It's usually not long before the centerpiece is recognized for what it truly is.....A distraction.
The problem is that he is chummy with Snyder and thinks he's above the rest of the players and can get away with not practicing, giving people lip service, etc. This guy needs to be knocked of his pedestal and has to realize that he's just like the rest of the players and if he doesn't, then ship his ass out of town cause he's not a team player.
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