Jerry Gray takes over Media Duties from Blache

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SmootSmack
10-09-2009, 06:05 PM
Smootsmack - when they said Shanahan was the guy did they mention anything about the current Front Office setup? Would Vinny still be part of the organization? Would Shanhan only come if he gets to bring his Front Office people including a new GM and would Synder get out of all things except signing the paychecks and marketing?

Front Office would reportedly alter a bit, but it wouldn't involve Vinny not being here.

celts32
10-09-2009, 10:23 PM
Front Office would reportedly alter a bit, but it wouldn't involve Vinny not being here.

teflon Vinny

SmootSmack
10-09-2009, 10:33 PM
teflon Vinny

I'll take Vinny over Shanahan as a GM

53Fan
10-09-2009, 10:41 PM
I'll take Vinny over Shanahan as a GM

I'll second that.

GTripp0012
10-10-2009, 02:51 AM
I'll take Vinny over Shanahan as a GMThirded.

Skinny Tee
10-10-2009, 05:34 AM
Bringing in a consultant is not a wild ass crazy move like JJ or Al Davis would make. Those two owners specifically think they know everything, and people who question them, like Dan Reeves, or any number of coaches in Oakland, are shown the door. DS has shown much more patience and respect to those who he brings in. And, businesses bring consultants in all the time(look in the yellow pages) when an area of operation is not producing like it should, football should be no different.

The Skins aren't a circus, they are a Bingo tent.

Finally I know fully well that I am an idiot, and I have an ex-wife who will gladly tell you every legitimate reason + some ;)

How about bringing in a knowledgable consultant in the offseason to be your GM? If he's willing to trust "experienced football guys" and bring them on during the season why doesn't he find a good consultant and leave him alone to manage our roster in the offseason?

Bring in all the consultants you want. Whoever uses one is usually the CEO of that business and thus would never receive any negative feedback on their influence in that company.

Basically a consultant for a company you also personally manage is just going to be a higher priced Yes Man.


Why does Snyder suddenly trust the opinion of an outside experienced football guy four weeks into the season?

Luxorreb
10-10-2009, 05:53 AM
As a Redskins season ticket holder and payer of those prices, I've been getting thrown under the bus for the last 10 years. I'm real close to not renewing my LL seats... F the BS and Snyder and Cerrato. Let's get someone who can run a football team. Isn't it about goddamn time? What the fuck?

celts32
10-10-2009, 11:01 AM
I'll take Vinny over Shanahan as a GM

I don't want either one as a GM. I want Vinny out more then I ever wanted anything in sports before. I don't even care how much of it is his fault. I want him fired if for no other reason then to see that its possible. I don't believe he is held accountable by Snyder like everyone else in that building. The proof is in the pudding...that organization has changed over like 5 times since Snyder purchased the team yet Vinny remains through one failed regime after another. I am not saying I want everyone in the front office fired...just Vinny.

The 1 season under Snyder where the redskins seemed to be pointed in the right direction was the one with Marty that Vinny was not a part of.

MonkFan4Life
10-10-2009, 11:49 AM
I beg to differ celts. I think Gibbs also had the team going in ther right direction. Gibbs' 2nd year there was a pretty good team here. Good D and a pretty good O. All this team needed was a second receiver to compliment Moss and a QB for the future. A couple of years later that gamble still hasn't been won. I've given my opinions on the QB thing so I'll leave those where they are.

Maybe Sherman coming in will help bring about a change with this offense. Maybe he can come in with no biases just his own opinion on what is wrong with this offense.

And for all of you all crying for a GM. You'd still complain unless he kicks Danny in the balls on National TV and locks him out of Ashburn. I wish we had one though because I wouldn't have to watch the underachiever every week.

Skinny Tee
10-10-2009, 12:16 PM
I beg to differ celts. I think Gibbs also had the team going in ther right direction. Gibbs' 2nd year there was a pretty good team here. Good D and a pretty good O. All this team needed was a second receiver to compliment Moss and a QB for the future. A couple of years later that gamble still hasn't been won. I've given my opinions on the QB thing so I'll leave those where they are.

Maybe Sherman coming in will help bring about a change with this offense. Maybe he can come in with no biases just his own opinion on what is wrong with this offense.

And for all of you all crying for a GM. You'd still complain unless he kicks Danny in the balls on National TV and locks him out of Ashburn. I wish we had one though because I wouldn't have to watch the underachiever every week.

I agree with Celts. I'd like to see Vinny go no matter what happens this year.

Sherman's influence on this team will make little or no impact. What percentage improvement could he possibly make being that he doesn't play on the field or call plays...at this point.

I'm happy that he's accredited and a Super Bowl champion but just having him as the "extra set of eyes" on our team is not going to suddenly turn us into contenders.

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