I Thought It Takes 2 Years To Learn The WCO

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firstdown
10-07-2009, 12:37 PM
We all talk about Snyder not showing any patients but what are all the fans now doing? When Zorn was hired all the talk was it takes 2 years for the O to learn and get down the timing of the WCO. Joe T. and others said over and over again it takes 2 years and fans need to be patient. We are 4 weeks into the season not even close to having two years in the system and now everyone is jumping ship. Just a thought.

SmootSmack
10-07-2009, 12:41 PM
Well it's not like at the end of two years you suddenly have learned it. The expectation is that you see progress over the course of a year and a half. Have we seen that progress?

KLHJ2
10-07-2009, 12:48 PM
The fans of the Washinton Redskins are impatient, always have been impatient, and always will be impatient. People in DC want instant gratification on the football field just as they experience in their every day lives. When things don't work the way we expect immediately, we want to change it. It is the attitude that comes with the town. The only way to counter the fans attitude of the DC area is to ignore it and be patient. Kind of hard to do when you (the owner) are a fan who was raised in this town.

If I can become a millionaire in a year, then why can't I win a Superbowl in a year?

KLHJ2
10-07-2009, 12:50 PM
Well it's not like at the end of two years you suddenly have learned it. The expectation is that you see progress over the course of a year and a half. Have we seen that progress?

I think that there has been progress. It just hasn't translated into points and wins yet. If the Skins stay the course, they can get there.

dan_snyder69
10-07-2009, 12:51 PM
yea like smootsmack said, the problem is no progress has been shown. If anything, regression. That regression can probably be attributed to the declining talent of our o-line since our 6-2 start last year, but regardless of the reason, we are still declining.

firstdown
10-07-2009, 12:57 PM
I think that there has been progress. It just hasn't translated into points and wins yet. If the Skins stay the course, they can get there.

I've seen progress moving the ball but like you said not in scoring which will lead to those wins. The toughest place to run any system is in the red zone and thats where I see our biggest problem and that is where the timing is most crucial. If they can improve on that then those losses we have had are wins.

over the mountain
10-07-2009, 12:58 PM
We all talk about Snyder not showing any patients but what are all the fans now doing? When Zorn was hired all the talk was it takes 2 years for the O to learn and get down the timing of the WCO. Joe T. and others said over and over again it takes 2 years and fans need to be patient. We are 4 weeks into the season not even close to having two years in the system and now everyone is jumping ship. Just a thought.

i dont think EVERYONE is jumping ship, unless cultbrennan69 = everyone. alot of us may bitch and moan about JC or JZ in some-what knee jerk reactions to what we see, but i think most of us (based on whats posted on the warpath) are willing to give them both the rest of the season to show signs of progress.

go skins!!

Chico23231
10-07-2009, 12:59 PM
How long does it take to learn how to call proper plays? How long does it take to make in and out game adjustments as a head coach in order to win games? How long does it take to learn to motivate and lead a team? How long should I wait to see progression in an offense?

BigHairedAristocrat
10-07-2009, 01:06 PM
Well it's not like at the end of two years you suddenly have learned it. The expectation is that you see progress over the course of a year and a half. Have we seen that progress?

I definitely think we have seen progress in Campbell; however I don't think its enough to justify signing him to a big contract... especially given that he would likely be starting over and learning a new offensive system next year if he stayed in 2010.

FRPLG
10-07-2009, 01:18 PM
I am less concerned about the system because we all know it can work. I am more concerned about the fact that we apparently only have one player on offense who is a difference maker. Let's face it: JC certainly hasn't been a world beater, Portis looks old, the linemen range from simply average to old, Sellers has looked like an ordinary fullback and the WRs look not very good to old. Only Cooley is any good right now. The problem isn't so much the system or play calling really as it is talent I think. And knowing the system will cover up a lack of talent only so much.

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