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Giantone 10-10-2009, 05:07 AM but lets look at the pot calling the Kettle black. I believe you fans were ready to take off Coughlins head before the second yr.
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Winning will stop any bitching,wasn't a Coughlin fan but he earned the right and now a'ALL" the players are behind him.This is more about ownership and ...............and I wasn't calling anyone anything.
NM Redskin 10-10-2009, 05:33 AM I think this is really the kiss of death for Sherman Smith. It is in the realm of possibility that Synder keeps Zorn and fires Smith for Lewis, if things don't improve.
Skinny Tee 10-10-2009, 06:50 AM I think this is really the kiss of death for Sherman Smith. It is in the realm of possibility that Synder keeps Zorn and fires Smith for Lewis, if things don't improve.
Zorn brought Sherman Smith in though. He actually had to do some convincing beforehand to pry him away from the Titans job. It would be pretty gutless to let your man go and just shrug it off like that. Especially considering Smith is one of only guys you brought in.
There has to be limitations to Zorn's constitution. You just can't continue to be undermined and be fine with it. You have to stand up at some point. Money and personal advancement is great but your professional credibility has to come into play when you're in charge.
Luxorreb 10-10-2009, 06:56 AM Unfortunately I think the writing is on the wall. Snyder is a rich prick. To fire Zorn before seasons end is premature, but we've seen it before. Why would true Skins fans expect otherwise? Why can't Gibbs Racing buy the team? FUCK. (Sorry for the curse words, but I'm really pissed).
NYCskinfan82 10-10-2009, 09:21 AM Lewis will see their a few problems fixable thou but we need better WR's coaching & he will put in more time with them.
ethat001 10-10-2009, 09:52 AM Too bad. Clearly this Sherman Lewis move is just more owner meddling with the team, and is destroying the team. Reminds me of when Gibbs was forced to give up his offensive coordinator role to whats-his-face (what could've happened if he kept it??). Sure, Lewis not a big move -- but it undermines the coach & team, and the team chemistry is falling apart. Sherman Smith is upset about Sherman Lewis, Portis is fighting with Sellers, Blache stopped talking to the media, and Zorn -- well, he's a *good guy* -- but how much respect does the team give him if they know he won't be there for long..
I think their drafts have been suspect & their free agent moves have often failed, and they just keep changing coaches and putting them at fault.
So looking back two years ago with the often talked about 3 second round picks... What if.. What if we actually drafted an offensive line two years ago?? INSTEAD of the receivers and TE we have that combined for -1 yard -- and actually drafted for NEED? Guess hindsight will tell us, but so far I just WISH we had a line that could actually create holes for Portis and betts. I just look at the HUGE running lanes that other running backs get down the middle of the field and I salivate....
Chico23231 10-10-2009, 10:25 AM ^"So looking back two years ago with the often talked about 3 second round picks... What if.. What if we actually drafted an offensive line two years ago?? INSTEAD of the receivers and TE we have that combined for -1 yard -- and actually drafted for NEED? Guess hindsight will tell us, but so far I just WISH we had a line that could actually create holes for Portis and betts. I just look at the HUGE running lanes that other running backs get down the middle of the field and I salivate...."
See thinking ahead and planning with your draft is how you building championship teams, WE DONT DO THAT HERE IN WASHINGTON. Our FO strategy is knee jerk reactions and plug hole strategy. Send draft picks away and then overpay free agents who never perform at their pay level. God, go to the salary cap central page here and prepare to throw up...my favs are Andre Carter, Portis and ARE contracts personally. There was an thread up here a couple months ago about "why we are the laughing stock of the NFL", its a direct result of are FO management. So far our play contributes to that laughing stock title as well hiring Bingo-callers and our D Cord being too sensative to reporters questions. Back to our 3 draft picks of the second round, you seen their play so far this year, might as well be ghosts out on the field because we getting goose eggs contributions from them. Its really just sicking to watch us hit bottom.
Too bad. Clearly this Sherman Lewis move is just more owner meddling with the team, and is destroying the team. Reminds me of when Gibbs was forced to give up his offensive coordinator role to whats-his-face (what could've happened if he kept it??). Sure, Lewis not a big move -- but it undermines the coach & team, and the team chemistry is falling apart. Sherman Smith is upset about Sherman Lewis, Portis is fighting with Sellers, Blache stopped talking to the media, and Zorn -- well, he's a *good guy* -- but how much respect does the team give him if they know he won't be there for long..
I think their drafts have been suspect & their free agent moves have often failed, and they just keep changing coaches and putting them at fault.
So looking back two years ago with the often talked about 3 second round picks... What if.. What if we actually drafted an offensive line two years ago?? INSTEAD of the receivers and TE we have that combined for -1 yard -- and actually drafted for NEED? Guess hindsight will tell us, but so far I just WISH we had a line that could actually create holes for Portis and betts. I just look at the HUGE running lanes that other running backs get down the middle of the field and I salivate....
Gibbs was forced to hire Saunders?
Interesting.
Got any concrete evidence of that?
wolfeskins 10-10-2009, 11:23 AM Gibbs was forced to hire Saunders?
Interesting.
Got any concrete evidence of that?
i thought gibbs wanted saunders because his(gibbs') offense was struggling. plus, i remember seeing an interview with gibbs and when he was asked if he had any regrets gibbs replied something like "i should have never brought saunders here"
Defensewins 10-10-2009, 01:56 PM ^"So looking back two years ago with the often talked about 3 second round picks... What if.. What if we actually drafted an offensive line two years ago?? INSTEAD of the receivers and TE we have that combined for -1 yard -- and actually drafted for NEED? Guess hindsight will tell us, but so far I just WISH we had a line that could actually create holes for Portis and betts. I just look at the HUGE running lanes that other running backs get down the middle of the field and I salivate...."
See thinking ahead and planning with your draft is how you building championship teams, WE DONT DO THAT HERE IN WASHINGTON. Our FO strategy is knee jerk reactions and plug hole strategy. Send draft picks away and then overpay free agents who never perform at their pay level. God, go to the salary cap central page here and prepare to throw up...my favs are Andre Carter, Portis and ARE contracts personally. There was an thread up here a couple months ago about "why we are the laughing stock of the NFL", its a direct result of are FO management. So far our play contributes to that laughing stock title as well hiring Bingo-callers and our D Cord being too sensative to reporters questions. Back to our 3 draft picks of the second round, you seen their play so far this year, might as well be ghosts out on the field because we getting goose eggs contributions from them. Its really just sicking to watch us hit bottom.
Our lack of running game is a serious and major liability to the offense.
Everything else is so much easier on offense when you can run the ball well.
We have a serious lack of investment in offensive linemen in draft. There was a vocal group here during the last few drafts pissed we did not draft more OL. I was one of them. We have drafted one lineman in the last three years, Chad Rinehart. During those three years we knew we had an O-line that is old and can not stay healthy. This under performing line did not come on suddenly, we knew about it and did very little to address the problem. .
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