Redskins hire offensive consultant

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SmootSmack
10-08-2009, 10:27 AM
I suspect that what may happen is the Redskins expect that Sherman Lewis will have a positive short-term impact.

But then I suspect that at the end of the season (or maybe before hand), Snyder and Cerrato will go to Zorn and say "Look, you've seen the impact Lewis has had and it's apparent you have too much on your plate as head coach, playcaller, and QB coach. And the support team you have here just isn't helping you out. So... you need to fire Chris Meidt and Sherman Smith (probably not Stump Mitchell."

Then, Zorn will probably (and I suspect this is what the front office expects) think well shoot those are my two top lieutenants, those are my guys, without them most of this staff isn't even mine and he'll reply with "No, I'm standing by these guys. If you don't want them around then I quit."

And the Redskins will then say "We gave him every opportunity but we appreciate his decision to move forward. We wish him continued success."

or something along those lines

44Deezel
10-08-2009, 10:30 AM
I suspect that what may happen is the Redskins expect that Sherman Lewis will have a positive short-term impact.

But then I suspect that at the end of the season (or maybe before hand), Snyder and Cerrato will go to Zorn and say "Look, you've seen the impact Lewis has had and it's apparent you have too much on your plate as head coach, playcaller, and QB coach. And the support team you have here just isn't helping you out. So... you need to fire Chris Meidt and Sherman Smith (probably not Stump Mitchell."

Then, Zorn will probably (and I suspect this is what the front office expects) think well shoot those are my two top lieutenants, those are my guys, without them most of this staff isn't even mine and he'll reply with "No, I'm standing by these guys. If you don't want them around then I quit."

And the Redskins will then say "We gave him every opportunity but we appreciate his decision to move forward. We wish him continued success."

or something along those lines

Yeah, that could happen I guess. But I think it will go something like this.

Cerrato to Zorn, "You're fired"

Zorn to Cerrato, "OK, goodbye."

CRedskinsRule
10-08-2009, 10:49 AM
I suspect that what may happen is the Redskins expect that Sherman Lewis will have a positive short-term impact.

But then I suspect that at the end of the season (or maybe before hand), Snyder and Cerrato will go to Zorn and say "Look, you've seen the impact Lewis has had and it's apparent you have too much on your plate as head coach, playcaller, and QB coach. And the support team you have here just isn't helping you out. So... you need to fire Chris Meidt and Sherman Smith (probably not Stump Mitchell."

Then, Zorn will probably (and I suspect this is what the front office expects) think well shoot those are my two top lieutenants, those are my guys, without them most of this staff isn't even mine and he'll reply with "No, I'm standing by these guys. If you don't want them around then I quit."

And the Redskins will then say "We gave him every opportunity but we appreciate his decision to move forward. We wish him continued success."

or something along those lines

I am sure Zorn is loyal, but I can't see him giving up his shot at head coaching for loyalty to an assistant. To hear him and his wife talk, he has wanted to be a head coach for a long long time. I think the only thing they could strip from him that would give him pause is play calling.

My real hope is that Lewis helps open Zorn's eyes enough to see through whatever it is that may be preventing him from taking that next step.

SmootSmack
10-08-2009, 10:55 AM
I am sure Zorn is loyal, but I can't see him giving up his shot at head coaching for loyalty to an assistant. To hear him and his wife talk, he has wanted to be a head coach for a long long time. I think the only thing they could strip from him that would give him pause is play calling.

My real hope is that Lewis helps open Zorn's eyes enough to see through whatever it is that may be preventing him from taking that next step.

Yeah I guess I should have been more clear that part of "forcing" Meidt and Smith out is the assumption that Zorn would need to hire an experienced, and part of Zorn's support of his guys is the knowledge that they let him remain in control. They're no real threat to him.

tryfuhl
10-08-2009, 07:41 PM
Alright.. one thing I haven't heard mentioned.

I've heard maybe Cerratto called Holmgren for who to pick

what if cerratto and zorn were talking about it and zorn called holmgren for a suggestion?

still could be from mike, but not behind the back of zorn.. I'd imagine that zorn still keeps contact with the ol walrus

NYCskinfan82
10-08-2009, 09:04 PM
I just want to win if he helps i'm all for that SB here we come.

Giantone
10-09-2009, 05:28 AM
I suspect that what may happen is the Redskins expect that Sherman Lewis will have a positive short-term impact.

But then I suspect that at the end of the season (or maybe before hand), Snyder and Cerrato will go to Zorn and say "Look, you've seen the impact Lewis has had and it's apparent you have too much on your plate as head coach, playcaller, and QB coach. And the support team you have here just isn't helping you out. So... you need to fire Chris Meidt and Sherman Smith (probably not Stump Mitchell."

Then, Zorn will probably (and I suspect this is what the front office expects) think well shoot those are my two top lieutenants, those are my guys, without them most of this staff isn't even mine and he'll reply with "No, I'm standing by these guys. If you don't want them around then I quit."

And the Redskins will then say "We gave him every opportunity but we appreciate his decision to move forward. We wish him continued success."

or something along those lines


From Charlie Casserly to the guys on PTI to everyone on ESPN and the NFL network, have given this......... "the kiss of Death for Zorn"............only becuase it was done so far into the season .I thnk this was unfair to Zorn..........another Snyder miscue.

Luxorreb
10-09-2009, 07:03 AM
Something smells fishy. I don't like it. Hopefully Zorn can save his job. If Zorn goes, Blache must go. As should Cerrato. Cause Cerrato and Snyder picked them... Will Greg Williams come back? Shanahan? Is the controversy media hype or Snyder reality? I'm afraid it's not media hype. What you all think?

#56fanatic
10-09-2009, 08:00 AM
if you are suprised by this move, then obviously you dont know Dan Snyder. This is a move to undermine his coach and the coaches staff. What confidence now does the team have in what Zorn is saying?? its absolutely a joke. You dont go and get "another set of eyes" after 4 games, when we are 2-2. I know our offense hasn't been great, but if two passes the week against the rams we caught (sellers and Thomas) we aren't having the discussions. If Zorn (who has been in football all most as long as snyder has had hair on his body) wanted it fine, but we all know he didn't. What the hell does Dan know about football?! NOTHING! This goes back to Norv when he won the division, and lost in the 2nd round of the playoffs. Then Danny boy goes out and gets a bunch of overhyped premadonnas that have no respect for anyone but the check and the season goes to crap, ruining the chemisty Norv had built. He gets fired at 7-6 or whatever the record was at the time (when we are in the middle of fighting for the wild card) and Danny never takes blame for any of that. Then we go to Marty..who finished 8-3 over the last 11 games. Has our roster looking good, draft in place and because he wouldn't give back the power Danny gave him...BOOM...he is gone. Which brings us to spurier, he never had a shot to begin with, all though during the first season I thought he was going to be pretty good. Then we have Gibbs who brought us back to some sort of respectability and what happens when he goes...BOOM.. Danny blows it all up by showing GW the door when everyone in that organization, except tweedle dee and tweedle dumb, wanted him as the coach. The two jackasses we have running our team will never learn and we will never have a team that is decent as long as Danny thinks he knows two shits about football. If I was Zorn, I would have told him to shove it up his ass. You can tell by some of the quotes that no one wants Lewis here nor do they think we need him. I personally want Zorn to work out BIG TIME, I am tired of a new coach every two years, new coordinators every two years, new roster every two years. No good organization is ever built this way.

CRedskinsRule
10-09-2009, 08:19 AM
Do people not believe Cerrato/Zorn when they say Snyder did not order this, Cerrato wanted it, Zorn accepted (grudgingly I am sure) and Snyder approved it. This isn't a Snyder meddling situation. It's most likely a Cerrato trying to save his and in the process Zorn's jobs. As for it occurring mid season, when you start off struggling against 3 of the worst teams in the league, it seems like a very good time to bring in another pair of eyes

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