Analisis, And Then Some!

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offiss
10-11-2004, 02:16 AM
I said it when we traded for Portis, and I said it when we traded for Brunell, Portis IS A SYSTEM BACK! he is incapable of breaking a tackle, we paid 50 mil. for a change of pace type 3rd down back, and that is why Denver wasen't about to give him a pay raise, he will go no further than where contact is made, then he's dropped dead in his track's. I am not just rating his running based on production, I am basing it on how he run's, you can see he's nothing special, we already had a nothing special kind of back with speed in Trung.

There is a reason Coughlin wanted to trade Brunell when he was coach of the Jag's, he fought with managment to try and do so, but they wouldn't let him, Brunell was a playmaker, not a thrower, a lot like Vick, I ask you, take away Vick's speed, and mobility, and who would want him? Well, Brunell can't move any more, and every throw he makes he's falling backward's, end of story. Ramsey is the perfect QB for Gibb's, if he just give him a chance, but Gibb's is in love with stat's since he's come back, I believe he think's he's coaching fantasy football, we have almost 100 mil. invested in 2 player's, when we already had better on our own team, and defiently would have had better with the pick's we would have obtained from Champ, and Brunell.

Ray Charles lives, as our booth official!

Chad Morton is another guy who fall's down if somebody's shadow get's to close! Defiently another bad signing.

I have been backing Bett's probably more than anybody here, but after that play with Reed, I would have cut him on the spot, not only does he not even attempt to throw a real block, after Reed run's by him, he stand's there watching him get ready to blindside Brunell, knowing that there could be a possible fumble, then when he actually start's for the ball, he takes a ridiculous angle, and with all that he still had a chance to tackle him and he blow's it.

On second thought I wouldn't cut him, I would have him tarred, and feathered!

Defense was tremendous, other than Marshall losing containment on 3rd and 3 late in the game, and letting Lewis get to the outside, [I still have no clue what he was doing on that one], no complaint's. they gave up 3 point's all night, considering they were on the field all night, outstanding!

Offensive line, lousy, can't run block, regardless of how average I think Portis is, the worst back in the league should be able to run the ball better than we do.

Their pass blocking wasen't bad, Brunell had some time, he just act's like he's under pressure.

Gibb's? If he's going to turn this thing around, he better start cracking the whip, and it start's with his hiring of Ray Charles, there is no need to see any more from this guy, he's as incompetent a replay official as can be!

illdefined
10-11-2004, 02:25 AM
Portis just isnt a straight ahead 230lb back which is how he's been played, and without a fullyknit Oline to boot, AND vs. 8men cuz of no air game. get him a decent fullback/leadblocker and some designed plays for his speed (a tight passing game is too much to wish for right now) and you will all eat your words.

SmootSmack
10-11-2004, 02:28 AM
Damn offiss, Ray Charles would be rolling over in his grave if he heard you comparing him to that replay official we've got.

Show Ray some respect, the man's a legend!

offiss
10-11-2004, 02:37 AM
Portis just isnt a straight ahead 230lb back which is how he's been played, and without a fullyknit Oline to boot, AND vs. 8men cuz of no air game. get him a decent fullback/leadblocker and some designed plays for his speed (a tight passing game is too much to wish for right now) and you will all eat your words.

No I wont, because I have been saying that all along, the problem is I don't see us changing our entire offense for him, which mean's he is not a conventional back, we do have some of the best lead blocker's on our team, there called TE's, and H-back's, personally I believe the biggest problem with Portis is Brunell's inability to pass, no one respect's it, if they did, Portis would be much more effective on quick draw's, and screen's, that would keep the D from loading up, but don't kid yourself now, Portis IS NOT A SPECIAL BACK, PERIOD! Can he play better than he has? Yes, but so could a lot of other back's.

offiss
10-11-2004, 02:46 AM
Damn offiss, Ray Charles would be rolling over in his grave if he heard you comparing him to that replay official we've got.

Show Ray some respect, the man's a legend!


Sorry SS, I now want to take a second to send out my most humble apology to the Charles family, I in no way had any ill intention's by comparing our official, to MR.Charles, I didn't take into account how humiliating it must be, to be compared to our replay official, there is no doubt in my mind, that if Ray was still with us, he could have ran his hand's over the TV screen, and made a better assesment, again, I hope the Charles family accept's my humble apology.

illdefined
10-11-2004, 02:57 AM
No I wont, because I have been saying that all along, the problem is I don't see us changing our entire offense for him, which mean's he is not a conventional back, we do have some of the best lead blocker's on our team, there called TE's, and H-back's, personally I believe the biggest problem with Portis is Brunell's inability to pass, no one respect's it, if they did, Portis would be much more effective on quick draw's, and screen's, that would keep the D from loading up, but don't kid yourself now, Portis IS NOT A SPECIAL BACK, PERIOD! Can he play better than he has? Yes, but so could a lot of other back's.

like i said in another thread, i already see Gibbs changing the offense more for him by seeing Cooley line up as a lead fullback in I Formation this game. Cooley is a catching TE, and this is all new to him too, but i definitely noticed this new wrinkle to the offense. while it didn't net many yards against an 8men Raven defense who wasnt worried about our passing game, it DID stop the fumbling at point of impact...

SmootSmack
10-11-2004, 02:57 AM
Sorry SS, I now want to take a second to send out my most humble apology to the Charles family, I in no way had any ill intention's by comparing our official, to MR.Charles, I didn't take into account how humiliating it must be, to be compared to our replay official, there is no doubt in my mind, that if Ray was still with us, he could have ran his hand's over the TV screen, and made a better assesment, again, I hope the Charles family accept's my humble apology.

:rofl:

offiss
10-11-2004, 03:12 AM
like i said in another thread, i already see Gibbs changing the offense more for him by seeing Cooley line up as a lead fullback in I Formation this game. Cooley is a catching TE, and this is all new to him too, but i definitely noticed this new wrinkle to the offense. while it didn't net many yards against an 8men Raven defense who wasnt worried about our passing game, it DID stop the fumbling at point of impact...


That is really nothing new for Gibb's, we used to do it all the time, the TE [usually warren] was leading a block, but it came from different places, not just the backfield, many times the TE goes in motion, then hit's the hole,

I couldn't be more impressed with Cooley, although he was a great recieving H-back in college, he also had a rep as a tremendous blocker, he won some kind of award for it, I believe we have a real find on our hand's, that kid is tough.

Luxorreb
10-11-2004, 03:17 AM
I do think it's time for Ramsey. Ramsey actually gives us a threat to go down the field. Anything Brunell throws over 10 yds looks like a hail mary heave. That INT to Deion in double coverage was a prayer. Ramsey has a cannon and I don't think he'll consistantly make mistakes like he did against the Giants. I'd rather turn the ball over deep in opposing territory spreading the field than constantly go 3 and out losing the field position battle the entire time. Spread the field and teams won't have 8 guys in the box on every play.

offiss
10-11-2004, 03:34 AM
I do think it's time for Ramsey. Ramsey actually gives us a threat to go down the field. Anything Brunell throws over 10 yds looks like a hail mary heave. That INT to Deion in double coverage was a prayer. Ramsey has a cannon and I don't think he'll consistantly make mistakes like he did against the Giants. I'd rather turn the ball over deep in opposing territory spreading the field than constantly go 3 and out losing the field position battle the entire time. Spread the field and teams won't have 8 guys in the box on every play.


I was going to put that in another thread about the 3 and out's, compared to a Ramsey turnover, you nailed it lux baby. Now will Gibb's and co. swallow their pride and admit I was right from the very beggining, Ramsey is better now, and will be 10 times the QB Brunell is. I will be waiting for a letter of apology! :headbange

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