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BaltimoreSkins
10-05-2009, 10:04 PM
No he did not make up for the Ints it was the D that made up for the 4 turnovers by not allowing TB to convert them into points.

We all expect the D to be able to hold especially to what we perceive as a team we should beat. I would like to see continued aggressive play calling with the potential of some quick strikes. If it leads to an Int, let the D handle the pressure.

jsarno
10-06-2009, 01:03 AM
Wow...14 votes for Campbell? :doh:

The guy throws for 3 ints, and has 2 fumbles, 1 lost (4 total turnovers)...throws for only 170 yards and 54.5% comp (especially considering how people are thumping his stats as reasons why we should extend him, or why he's so good etc), but somehow people think he's MVP? LVP maybe, but MVP...PFFFF. How ANYONE can say a person with 2 tds and 4 turnovers is MVP is well...you can fill in the blank. Yet again, Campbell shows us why he doesn't deserve to be our starter, this time he backed it up with concrete stats.

GTripp0012
10-06-2009, 01:14 AM
Wow...14 votes for Campbell? :doh:

The guy throws for 3 ints, and has 2 fumbles, 1 lost (4 total turnovers)...throws for only 170 yards and 54.5% comp (especially considering how people are thumping his stats as reasons why we should extend him, or why he's so good etc), but somehow people think he's MVP? LVP maybe, but MVP...PFFFF. How ANYONE can say a person with 2 tds and 4 turnovers is MVP is well...you can fill in the blank. Yet again, Campbell shows us why he doesn't deserve to be our starter, this time he backed it up with concrete stats.Convenient, isn't it?

jsarno
10-06-2009, 01:28 AM
Convenient, isn't it?

Sarcasm noted.

Campbell is just like Obama...UNTOUCHABLE. Why everyone thinks he is the next champion is beyond me. We won DESPITE campbell. Congrats to the Skins for overcoming the ineptitude of our QB!

Hey, I was on the campbell side at one time...I thought he needed more time, and he showed glimpses of being good...but he's either amazingly slow developing, or we are just HOPING he turns into what we want.

mooby
10-06-2009, 04:37 AM
Sarcasm noted.

Campbell is just like Obama...UNTOUCHABLE. Why everyone thinks he is the next champion is beyond me. We won DESPITE campbell. Congrats to the Skins for overcoming the ineptitude of our QB!

Hey, I was on the campbell side at one time...I thought he needed more time, and he showed glimpses of being good...but he's either amazingly slow developing, or we are just HOPING he turns into what we want.

Yeah, despite the 4 turnovers Campbell didn't do anything in the third quarter that gave us the lead and was the reason why we won the game. The D scored those points with their outrageously good play ;).

skins89moss
10-06-2009, 05:47 AM
And you believe that the two TD passes makes up for having 4 turnovers? 99% of the time in this league, if a QB throws 3 (almost 4) INT's, loses a fumble on top of that and even in the second half didnt do anything spectacular against a ridiculously poor defense, that team will lose the game. Thank god we had a defense shut them down to basically only 6 points.

Now the thing about Cutler, I never really said anything concerning him, and I sure aint on his stick, but lemme take a shot at this.

How many times has Cutler, in his career, albeit short, thrown for 350+ yards, and compare that to Campbells. How many three td games has campbell ever had? compare that to cutlers, shoot, Cutler even has a better winning pct. with much worse defenses.......Why?

Because he makes plays. Teams need to account for him. Hes a weapon. He influences games, not just manages them in a piss poor manner, hoping not to make a mistake to influence it in a negative way. Teams DO NOT look at the upcoming game with the skins and say, "We've better account for this guy every play, or hes gonna eat us alive." Know why? Because hes never done that at all in his entire career against even the POOREST of teams.(Just look at our first three games this year.)Oh, and look what Cutlers doing in Chicago, with absolutely NO receiver corps of any kind. Campbell has better weapons, hes just not a winner.

Now, let the excuses flow. (like I said, where is the allegiance to this mediocre soul coming from anywho?)

Thats great you showing your man crush on Jay Cutler. Why don't you go and get on the Bears bandwagon now. We won't miss you around here. Cutler had how many picks against the Bears when they lost? :blah:

skins89moss
10-06-2009, 05:54 AM
I am not defending Cutler, like I said in my first post, I've never even mentioned his name before the above post. But you did make my point for me. If Cutler had the defense that JC does, u think the Broncs still go 8 - 8 last year? Hell No. Cut and dry, plain and simple, Cutler is a better quarterback than JC.

Now, let me also get this straight before people start lobbing rotten tomatoes, used condoms, and brussel sprouts (?) my way. I am not a JC hater. I hope he leads us to the Super Bowl. I am just tired of the excuses and waiting for some explosiveness. Our team hasn't gone over the 20 point mark, in what, 20+ games? Id love for him to succeed just as much as the next guy, shoot, I root for him on Sunday ticket and love watching the burgandy and gold every sunday. But I also, as a fan, cant help but look at the Mannings, Bradys, Ryans, Flaccos, Rothlisbergers, Rivers, Brees', shoot, even the Warners of this league and wish my team could have what they have. A Strong QB, not just one who slides by, week by week. Not hatin', just wishin' I guess.

Since you are wishing why not wish for JC to become the next P.Manning or Brady. Instead you rather have the other teams QB's. That won't happen cause good teams dont give a way franchise QB's. :cool-smil

redskinslick
10-06-2009, 10:54 AM
D. Hall gets the game ball hands down, he woke use up. He inspired the whole team with that pick.It seemed to come right on time, JC came back out and went nut. All of the great QBs have had games like this, learning how to win those ugly games when everything is going wrong, that makes you pretty special.

firstdown
10-06-2009, 11:34 AM
D. Hall gets the game ball hands down, he woke use up. He inspired the whole team with that pick.It seemed to come right on time, JC came back out and went nut. All of the great QBs have had games like this, learning how to win those ugly games when everything is going wrong, that makes you pretty special.

So now we are using the term "pretty special" to describe JC?

GTripp0012
10-06-2009, 12:11 PM
Sarcasm noted.

Campbell is just like Obama...UNTOUCHABLE. Why everyone thinks he is the next champion is beyond me. We won DESPITE campbell. Congrats to the Skins for overcoming the ineptitude of our QB!

Hey, I was on the campbell side at one time...I thought he needed more time, and he showed glimpses of being good...but he's either amazingly slow developing, or we are just HOPING he turns into what we want.Hey, you know me well enough to know I'm not part of the crowd that sees the two TD passes in the third quarter and says, "wow, Jason Campbell really showed me something today." I don't see any positives in a bad performance. Others do. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm a stats guy first and I'm being consistent.

What Jason Campbell can be in this league is still very much up in the air. What he is: a known quantity at this point. If that makes him Barack Obama in your mind, well, um, okay. It's a horrible comparison for any number of reasons. As a known quantity though, he's rarely the reason we win or lose close games. Which makes small-sample analysis of his play largely if not completely unnecessary.

What he is right now, and what he will be for the next three weeks at least, is a guy who is leading a passing offense that may be incapable of leading us into the end zone with consistency, but might be our only offensive weapon. That's got a lot of value, but at the end of the day, it's not the difference between winning and losing.

If the OL gels, Campbell might be able to go out and snatch some wins from the jaws of defeat. Until then, he is what he is. And the analysis is best spent other places. Like: how does the punter hurt his groin? C'mon, you know you want to talk about groins and punters!

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