Michael peels back the curtain at Redskins Park in interview with Wise

Marty S. is JUST WHAT THIS TEAMS NEEDS. A few weeks ago when we were playing the Giants I noticed that they looked like the team that was physically tougher and stronger. And to me that is what this team is missing and Marty will make sure we're a physically tough team. Not to mention some much needed discipline.

That's not the way it was reported at the time. According to Rick Snider of the Washington Times, Snyder wanted to change the terms of the original contract to get more control over personnel decisions. He also wasn't happy with O-coordinator Jimmy Raye.

If I could find a link I'd post it, but I was covering the Redskins pretty exclusively in 2001 and I definitely remember that Marty's initial contract called for the option of hiring a general manager.

You're right about the organization not wanting Raye.

If I could find a link I'd post it, but I was covering the Redskins pretty exclusively in 2001 and I definitely remember that Marty's initial contract called for the option of hiring a general manager.

You're right about the organization not wanting Raye.

Redskins Still May Hire a GM; Contract With Coach Leaves Open Possibility - The Washington Post | Encyclopedia.com (http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-490984.html)

Coach Marty Schottenheimer's contract with the Washington Redskins gives team owner Daniel Snyder full authority to hire a front office executive to head the club's player personnel department if he chooses.

That leaves open the possibility that Snyder could hire a general manager or an executive with GM-like powers this offseason who would report to Snyder, not Schottenheimer, and oversee the retooling of the team's roster.

I'm going to play devils advocate. Even though they might be the exception to the rule, but three guys off the top of my head that are really nice guys that have Super Bowl rings are Tony Dungy, Dick Vermil, and Joe Gibbs.

With that said the only real "hard asses" that I can think of that have won Super Bowls are Belicheck, Gruden, and Coughlin.

the tuna, ditka, if you want to go way back - lombardi

are you talking only about active, or soon to be active, coaches?

Please take this seriously, if we're talking about potential GMs:

THE TUNA!

I personally would hate to see him in anything close to B&G, but word is that he might be looking to leave Miami after this year, as is his usual pattern. IF we have a miserable 09 & the Danny really wants to blow this thing up, don't be surprised if he's at least contacted.

Ya know it's a shame when I can read what your writing and your confusing the hell out of me. In your first post I thought you were actually trying to point out that JC is the next best thing since sliced bread. Which is why I asked you if you were talking about JC.

Then I read this post and it sounds like your bashing JC. So I'm thoroughly confused unless your were being sarcastic in one of these. but to answer your question if JC is extended I would hope DS would get a serious discount and put him as our #2 and look for someone who is #1 quality. Otherwise beef up the damn O-line and give him all day to throw to the great talent they will need around him.

Not one time did I make it seem like I thought JC was the best thing since sliced anything let alone bread. I made a bet with a good friend of mine who is a diehard Redskins fan that Jason Campbell would throw 20 touchdowns this season. My 50 to his 100 that Jason would throw 20 I said sure he would. I took 7 steps back to the spot I was in before I shook his hand on it and,... it was like when you first realize fore yourselfd that Santa Clause wasn't real. I knew that he wouldn't do it. I thought about all of his throws. His decision making, his reluctance lead this team, the fact that he doesn't call his own protections, better yet the fact that he doesn't ever want to even though the coaches do. Everything about this mans game became real to me once I put money on it. I remember when Emmit Smith made his comments about Tony Romo being a leader for this team now that someone asked him to do it and how sad it was, I swear you could substitute Romo's name with Campbell and it all applies except contract of course.

That's not the way it was reported at the time. According to Rick Snider of the Washington Times, Snyder wanted to change the terms of the original contract to get more control over personnel decisions. He also wasn't happy with O-coordinator Jimmy Raye.

Regardless of the specifics, what it boils down to is that Snyder wanted more control of his toys.

Well it also boils down to does Marty want to come back, does Cowher want to come here? Do they really want to work together?

And a follow up question is whether anyone of any repute wants to come here? Take Spagnuolo. Some reports were that the Skins wanted him and that despite the money they would offer, he wouldn't want to coach in DC. Even if this wasn't true, and the Skins simply didn't want him, the fact is it's believable. Why? Because, as has been discussed ad naseum in this thread, if your personality is such that you're unwilling to cowtow to the owner, you won't last in Washington. That's going to drive away candidates.

Regardless of whether we want Zorn fired, assuming he is, would we be happy with Cowher or Shanahan or even Marty? I think most fans would be, even if one or the other was not our first choice. But would Cowher or Shanahan really want to come to Washington? Why would they? These guys have been successful, these guys have won Super Bowls, these guys are heavily valued assets, and as such they are in positions to ask for whatever they want and expect to get it. Why would they choose to work for a meddlesome owner if they don't have to?

And a follow up question is whether anyone of any repute wants to come here? Take Spagnuolo. Some reports were that the Skins wanted him and that despite the money they would offer, he wouldn't want to coach in DC. Even if this wasn't true, and the Skins simply didn't want him, the fact is it's believable. Why? Because, as has been discussed ad naseum in this thread, if your personality is such that you're unwilling to cowtow to the owner, you won't last in Washington. That's going to drive away candidates.

Regardless of whether we want Zorn fired, assuming he is, would we be happy with Cowher or Shanahan or even Marty? I think most fans would be, even if one or the other was not our first choice. But would Cowher or Shanahan really want to come to Washington? Why would they? These guys have been successful, these guys have won Super Bowls, these guys are heavily valued assets, and as such they are in positions to ask for whatever they want and expect to get it. Why would they choose to work for a meddlesome owner if they don't have to?

I made reference to this in the Sally J thread; there were reports that Spag et al didn't want this HC job & that Zorn was one of the only guys that would take it. The answer to your last question is simply; money and/or control. DS can lure a big name, but only at a big price.