SBXVII
10-01-2009, 11:23 PM
One guy Cowher has said he wouldn't mind working for is....Marty Schottenheimer
Then it all boils down to can DS eat crow and hire a winner or has that ship sailed and DS won't bring in anyone he's fired before?
SmootSmack
10-01-2009, 11:29 PM
Then it all boils down to can DS eat crow and hire a winner or has that ship sailed and DS won't bring in anyone he's fired before?
Well it also boils down to does Marty want to come back, does Cowher want to come here? Do they really want to work together?
The Goat
10-01-2009, 11:30 PM
I'm going to play devils advocate. Even though they might be the exception to the rule, but three guys off the top of my head that are really nice guys that have Super Bowl rings are Tony Dungy, Dick Vermil, and Joe Gibbs.
With that said the only real "hard asses" that I can think of that have won Super Bowls are Belicheck, Gruden, and Coughlin.
I would quickly add Cowher and Tomlin to the hard ass list. Tomlin is a thoughtful person in interviews and overall I think a really high-character guy, but watch him on the sideline and he's as prickly as they come.
Well it also boils down to does Marty want to come back, does Cowher want to come here? Do they really want to work together?
With all the negative BS that accompanies working for the Skins these days, the nations capital does have a few perks not available from other teams.
How often the Commander in Chief attend practices for...say the Raiders?
On Monday morning in the most powerful city on earth, the topic of conversation with the most powerful people is the Skins game.
70Chip
10-02-2009, 12:31 AM
Snyderatto is mine. I didn't grant anyone else permission.
GMScud
10-02-2009, 12:47 AM
Snyderatto is mine. I didn't grant anyone else permission.
A great post for #3,000.
Beemnseven
10-02-2009, 08:03 AM
I think thats SmootSmacks point and mine. GMicheals makes it sound like Marty was let go cause no one liked him or could get along with him which is a half truth. Only some of the players could not get along with Marty....the ones who don't like hard nosed coach's. but in actuality Marty was fired cause he wanted to be GM and HC which DS was not going to let happen. Marty said then fire me. ....and he was.
Wrong.
Marty already was GM and HC because that's what Dan Snyder agreed to according to the terms of the contract. Year one under Marty wasn't so great offensively, and Snyder wanted him to relinquish control of parts of the coaching staff.
It was Dan Snyder who tried to weasel out of the terms of the contract and Marty called him on it.
Beemnseven
10-02-2009, 08:13 AM
Great point...another hard ass coach who in the end earned the respect of his roster and those guys fight for every last inch on the field.
Just for shits and giggles...does anyone here think lil Danny would get along w/ Coughlin? Would he get along w/ any of the great coaches out there right now? Really? How many great coaches strike you as really nice, easy-going blokes?
After Spurrier left, one of the coaches that was available was Tom Coughlin. For some reason, Coughlin was never on the list of possible coaches at that point. Never understood why.
SmootSmack
10-02-2009, 08:14 AM
Wrong.
Marty already was GM and HC because that's what Dan Snyder agreed to according to the terms of the contract. Year one under Marty wasn't so great offensively, and Snyder wanted him to relinquish control of parts of the coaching staff.
It was Dan Snyder who tried to weasel out of the terms of the contract and Marty called him on it.
Not entirely correct. The contract called for Marty to be both HC and GM but included an option for Snyder to go hire a General Manager. Snyder thought at the time it was too much for Schottenheimer to handle both coach and personnel duties and wanted him to focus only on coaching.
Beemnseven
10-02-2009, 08:21 AM
Not entirely correct. The contract called for Marty to be both HC and GM but included an option for Snyder to go hire a General Manager. Snyder thought at the time it was too much for Schottenheimer to handle both coach and personnel duties and wanted him to focus only on coaching.
That's not the way it was reported at the time. According to Rick Snider of the Washington Times, Snyder wanted to change the terms of the original contract to get more control over personnel decisions. He also wasn't happy with O-coordinator Jimmy Raye.