Sally J.'s latest is spot on

Spence there is no reasoning with SS on the topic of the DS. he has his opinion, the majority of skins fans have a different one.Count me in with SS.

Embraced! Ten years of losing. Kind of makes you embrace it with arms wide open.Playoffs 1999, 2005, 2007.

The article tells it exactly like it is.

"I've said it before, and I say it again more than ever: It looks to me like Snyder would rather be the center of power on a losing team than a peripheral figure on a winning one."

That is one of the most honest and cogent statements about Dan Snyder I've ever heard...it is the bottom line IMHO and Snyder apologists will write themselves in endless circles searching for an escape from that reality.

My biggest fear when it comes to my Skins is Snyder will own the team for as long as I'm alive...

I definitely thought of blame it on the alcohol, right away.

Milli Vanilli is a little bit before my time. :)

girlfriend, you don't know what you're missin!

Then again, neither do we older ones, since MV wasn't who we thought they were!

does anyone else suspect Zorn is lipsynching and it is actually Snyder sending the plays in to Campbell?

I definitely thought of blame it on the alcohol, right away.

Milli Vanilli is a little bit before my time. :)

I was thinking Blame it on the Alcohol for you...or Blame it on the Boogie for the dmeks out there

Originally Posted by SBXVII
Did anyone see "Redskins Nation" tonight with Cerrato? Again, to me, it had the whole pep rally feel. Damage control spin. Discredit any questions that put down the team in any fashion feel.

All of the sudden Larry Michael's breaks into this whole speach about random comments slamming people on the team or in the organization when they don't know anything about the individual.

I presume he was refering to Cerrato. The whole time Cerrato was sitting there looking like a pug stairing straight ahead. Then when questioned it seemed ...I don't know .... like he was not the sharpest tool in the shed. I'm not trying to slam him like others have. I was seriously shocked at how bad he spoke and how he was presented. Maybe it was just me. Cerrato then went on to talk about how he has all these rings from NFC championship games and SB's and maybe he will take a picture of them and send it to the blogger so they will know what it looks like since they will never get a chance to ever have one like him. I thought holly crap what an a$$.

Just watched this and it pissed me off. I usually like Larry Michael but he acted like a total bitch. His main argument was that Vinny works hard. What the hell? EVERYONE WORKS HARD. He doesn't get paid for effort, he gets paid for results.

Vinny's performance is indefensible. How are those 11 draft picks in 08 doing? Vinny and Danny have made a mockery of our beloved franchise. LM has some nerve to lecture Sally Jenkins for her dead-on critique. He's beyond being a homer. He's a total D-bag!

Ugh, the gay-ass Larry's are now talking about how the Eagles and Giants recently rebounded from slow starts. Are they high? Did the Giants and Eagles lose to the likes of the Lions? After finishing the previous season 2-6? They are friggin demented. Eff them for slamming fans for being pissed off. They suck.

Ugh, the gay-ass Larry's are now talking about how the Eagles and Giants recently rebounded from slow starts. Are they high? Did the Giants and Eagles lose to the likes of the Lions? After finishing the previous season 2-6? They are friggin demented. Eff them for slamming fans for being pissed off. They suck.

In 2006 the Giants finished 2-6 en route to an 8-8 record (though they still earned a Wild Card berth). The following year they started 1-2 before marching on to a Super Bowl win.

Did they lose to the likes of the Lions? No

NY Sally...bah! Cut and paste from any of her previous articles. She should get her facts straight though:

1) "The most damning anecdote I've heard yet about Snyder came this week from his former player-confidante LaVar Arrington, who described how Snyder would stand outside the locker room and shake hands with players when they won, but glared and declined to offer a hand when they lost. "

LaVar...I'm sure he's got no axe to grind.

2) "Now, surely Zorn has better things to do than to explain the elementary and the obvious to his owner: They don't have an effective offensive line or a pass rush."

Maybe she should read some of our write-ups before she makes such inaccurate blanket statements.

3) He is personally responsible for naming Vinny Cerrato, a proven failure, executive vice president of football operations, for the Redskins' lack of core strength, for their inability to power the ball in the red zone, which is thanks to his decade of neglect of the interior lines in favor of big free agent signings.

Here's Cerrato's resume, hardly a "failure".

Notre Dame
Before the NFL, Cerrato served as the football recruiting coordinator under Lou Holtz (http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Lou_Holtz) at the University of Notre Dame (http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/University_of_Notre_Dame). During that time, the Irish played in four Bowl games and won the 1988 NCAA National Championship.

49ers
Cerrato was with the San Francisco 49ers (http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/San_Francisco_49ers) for nine seasons. He joined San Francisco in 1991 as the Director of College Scouting, helping to draft players including Ted Washington (http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Ted_Washington), Ricky Watters (http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Ricky_Watters), Dana Stubblefield (http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Dana_Stubblefield) and Bryant Young (http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Bryant_Young). In 1994 (http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/1994_NFL_season), he was part of the Super Bowl XXIX (http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXIX) Championship team. In 1995, Cerrato was promoted to Director of Player Personnel, overseeing all college scouting and draft activities as well as pro scouting of NFL players and opponents.

Cerrato has only been formally in charge since the 2008 off-season. Hardly enough time to be judged a "failure".

As to "Core strength" if she's meaning quality of players through the middle of the field. Landry, Fletcher, Haynesworth, Griff, Portis come to mind (Rabach & Campbell are at worst average). If she's talking streghth of the lines: Samuels (Pro Bowl), Dock (solid FA, reasonable price), Rabach (solid), Rinehart (inexperienced, but no glaring defeciencies), Heyer (young, raw, but solid). Orakpo (best defensive player in draft), Haynesworth (Pro Bowl), Griff, aging but solid, AC (struggling).

Her assessment of not running inside the Red Zone is way off and has nothing to do with "neglecting the interior lines". Dock, Rabach and Thomas were all solid FA signings. Rinehart and Montgomery have shown promise. We've discussed the run scheme quite a bit, maybe she should read here before writing trash.

Didn't Snyder hire Joe Gibbs in 2004 and cede complete control to him? I guess she forgot 2004-2007 while wallowing in her Snyder bashing Imaginationland.

4) And how long can all of them keep fighting for Zorn when no one in the front office will step forward and preach real loyalty, by publicly declaring, "This is our coach and the path we're on."

Ah yes, the "vote of confidence" is just what we need right now.

5) But somehow it seems more important given the nature of the NFL, a business in which men sacrifice their bodies and futures weekly for the good of the organization...

And here I thought the players were getting paid (pretty damn good last I checked) to do a job, that most anyone would love to do.

6) Snyder declined an interview request Wednesday, but hopefully in the near future he will make clear his vision for a better future for the organization.

After all the trash NY Sally has written about Snyder and the Skins over the years, if I was Snyder I wouldn't give that b***h the time of day either.

I think hooskins summed it up best...F you Sally.