Smoke Signals: The Mike Holmgren rumors get louder

i hear ya but under zorns control the skins are 3-8 over the last 11 games. how much longer do we wait? until it's 6-16.
No we wait until the end of the year. I notice you pick how far to look back to support your point. Zorn is 9-10 as a head coach.

No we wait until the end of the year. I notice you pick how far to look back to support your point. Zorn is 9-10 as a head coach.

I was about to mention his nitpicking too.



"Fire Zorn, we're 0-1 in the last week! He hasn't won a game in October this year!"

I guess we should bring this song out of retirement.

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Since this is a Holmgren thread, I assumed you were thinking of this song...

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lol @ holmgreen being a walrus

I wouldn't discount Cleveland and Buffalo as options for Holmgren.

Regardless, are we really that much better off with Holmgren as GM and head coach? I'm not sure I see that.

If anything maybe just bring him back as a GM or Team President.
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I agree. I think Holmgren would be more effective as a GM or Team President at this point. I also think he is someone Snyder would listen to and respect.

I'm pretty sure he has said he would want control over the roster, but that can be kind of a vague statement

One name I'm surprised hasn't been rumored this time around is Steve Mariucci
I thought that last year when someone was talking to Cowher it was mentioned it wouldn't get done 1) timing and 2) cowher wants his own personnel guy and that team wasn't willing to do that.. I'm thinking that it was the Jets

I've only heard Mooch from fans.. no clue on his intentions and how far things got last year with that

I thought that last year when someone was talking to Cowher it was mentioned it wouldn't get done 1) timing and 2) cowher wants his own personnel guy and that team wasn't willing to do that.. I'm thinking that it was the Jets

I've only heard Mooch from fans.. no clue on his intentions and how far things got last year with that

So Cowher would actually have someone high up scouting players for him and he would just have the final say on all personel decisions or would he essentially do almost everything himself?

I thought that last year when someone was talking to Cowher it was mentioned it wouldn't get done 1) timing and 2) cowher wants his own personnel guy and that team wasn't willing to do that.. I'm thinking that it was the Jets

I've only heard Mooch from fans.. no clue on his intentions and how far things got last year with that

But speaking on Sirius NFL radio Monday, Schottenheimer said he was intrigued about serving in a Bill Parcells-type role with Bill Cowher if he decided to return to coaching.

Schotts and Cowher in Cleveland? | F Juice.com (http://www.nfljuice.com/2008/12/09/schotts-and-cowher-in-cleveland/)

And I'm sure I've seen Cowher say he'd be interested in that too

But speaking on Sirius NFL radio Monday, Schottenheimer said he was intrigued about serving in a Bill Parcells-type role with Bill Cowher if he decided to return to coaching.

Schotts and Cowher in Cleveland?*|*F Juice.com (http://www.nfljuice.com/2008/12/09/schotts-and-cowher-in-cleveland/)

And I'm sure I've seen Cowher say he'd be interested in that too

This might be intreging if our season continues down the current path. A hard nosed GM and a hard chinned...I mean nosed HC might straighten out the players looking for the free ride and ge them performing.

I found this under Cowher's Wiki:

Cowher began his coaching career in 1985 at age 28 under Marty Schottenheimer (http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Marty_Schottenheimer) with the Cleveland Browns (http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Cleveland_Browns). He was the Browns' special teams coach in 1985–86 and secondary coach in 1987–88 before following Schottenheimer to the Kansas City Chiefs (http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Kansas_City_Chiefs) in 1989 as defensive coordinator.

Assuming we bring Marty in as GM and Cowher in as HC, could we steal or get Marty's son Brian from the Jets to be OC? Unless we give him some fansy name like Asst. HC could we even bring him on board unless his contract is up and if someone knows when that would be?

Then who do we bring in as DC?

This might be intreging if our season continues down the current path. A hard nosed GM and a hard chinned...I mean nosed HC might straighten out the players looking for the free ride and ge them performing.

I found this under Cowher's Wiki:

Cowher began his coaching career in 1985 at age 28 under Marty Schottenheimer (http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Marty_Schottenheimer) with the Cleveland Browns (http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Cleveland_Browns). He was the Browns' special teams coach in 1985–86 and secondary coach in 1987–88 before following Schottenheimer to the Kansas City Chiefs (http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Kansas_City_Chiefs) in 1989 as defensive coordinator.

Assuming we bring Marty in as GM and Cowher in as HC, could we steal or get Marty's son Brian from the Jets to be OC? Unless we give him some fansy name like Asst. HC could we even bring him on board unless his contract is up and if someone knows when that would be?

Then who do we bring in as DC?

Cowher didn't just coach for Marty. He played for him as a linebacker when Marty was the defensive coordinator in Cleveland in the early 80s.

Brian would have to be assistant head coach