What If...We Win?

Then we'll have nothing to whine err I mean talk about. :)
When that happens Armageddon wil be a........thing of the past.

OH, and JZ stays IF, we demonstrate a modicum of change. The "new" guys start producing. Innovation can be seen in the play calling, and F..n time mgmt. AND we don't limp and LUCK our way to a w-card only to get spanked in the WC game.
A clear step forward.....NOT a...see ya' next season for more of the same. I personally am WAY tired of "Groundhog Day". YOU KNOW, inspiring confidence to all that we actually may know WTF we're doing?

Trust me, 9-7 and Zorn and Blache are out of here. I think 9-7 and a first round playoff berth and they're gone.

A second round playoff appearance, Hunter Smith knocking out the lights of Jerry's Jone's screen per Zorn, Zorn on his knees begging Danny to keep his job, run a few fire drills, 50 push-ups, 100 sit ups and Danny might let him stay.

If Zorn makes the playoffs, Ill be happy and wont complain, but Im am still in favor of firing Vinny and hiring a real GM regardless. I would def but 4 Zorn and JC staying if we do make the playoffs.

At this point and with this schedule 9-7 would represent an epic turnaround. The combined records of the next three opponents is 0-9 so really you need to get those wins, but it is very unlikely they go 3-0. Hopefully you can beat Tampa Bay and Kansas City, legitimately bad teams, at home. I don't see the Skins going into the Carolina, facing a desperate team who is coming off a bye week, and stealing a victory. So that puts you, best case, 3-3 heading into the varsity portion of the schedule. If Zorn can come up with 6 wins against the NFC East, New Orleans, @ Atlanta, and @ San Diego he really would be doing something. That is eight of the games, he also gets to face Denver at home (who looks improved on defense, if not quite as good as 3-0 would suggest), and a terrible Oakland team on the road. Even the Oakland game will be tough because it is a West Coast trip. If you come out of that 9-7, after the way they looked against St. Louis and Detroit, then Zorn would really have done something good. It seems pretty hard to imagine right now. If they play at the level they have so far you are looking at something like 6-10 or worse.

Frankly we will know a lot more after this week. If you lose to Tampa than you have now dropped 2 conference games to two of the worst teams in the conference. Forget playoffs at that point because you won't be winning any tiebreakers. Then it just becomes a bunch of guys playing for their jobs and it will get even uglier.

Wow. This is a tough question. I don't know what keeo Zorn here other than a complete turn around before the bye week. If we limp into the bye at 2-5 I think Zorn may be fired at that point. Of course, that being said I don't think 9-7 and missing the playoffs will keep him his job either. 9-7 isn't going to be good enough in the NFC this year to make the playoffs. 10-6 or better in the NFC to get the Wildcard.

Even then Zorn is going to need to fight to get to 10-6 and win a playoff game. Then he gets to stay. Right now that is a very daunting task for the HC.

Then we'll have nothing to whine err I mean talk about. :)
Classic ! Err , skins fans whine ,,, say it isn't so :)

You called yourself brilliant? :confused:
I always tell people how great I'am ,,,, but nobody believes me (:

If they continue to play like shit but eventually turn the corner and finish strong (a la Marty), I think Snyder might be inclined to give Zorn another season and even sign Campbell to a long term deal. Maybe the light bulb will go off in Zorn's head sometime. He's still pretty much a rookie play caller after all.

But in all likelihood, we will have a new coach, QB and hopefully GM next year.

it's more than Zorn first of all ...

blache has ALOT to do with the games we've already lost. point blank.

i've been saying all along if things change u know, maybe we dont have to fire the staff...

simple enough, if the subtle things change, we WILL start winning...

if they dont .... happy trails... evreybody but Bugel should go.

The Rams scored 7, the Lions scored 19 and the Giants scored 23 (with a fumble 6 by their D). We only let 1 team score 30 last year, and it was the last game of the year. Yes, the D looked bad against the Lions, but they NEVER get to play with a lead and always have to pick up the slack for our putrid Offense who hasn't scored 30 points in 19 games now.

Brees threw 6 TDs against the Lions in game 1. It will take Campbell 6 games to match that. The O is still the biggest liability on this team.

I know we've all pretty much written off the season and are ready to start talking about whether we'll be introducing Cowher or Shanahan in 2010...but what if things start to click?

What if suddenly we start winning games?

What then? Do we give Zorn another year?

I guess basically my question is what keeps Zorn here in 2010


If we suddenly start winning games this will be a more peaceful place on Sunday nights, and throughout the coming week.

Depending on the success we have going foreward will determine whether Zorn get's more time. If the team snaps out of it's funk and begins to win games then Zorn should be safe in 2010 and beyond.

The man needs more time with all the parts neccessary to produce a winning team . Some say he does not need the tools neccessary to win, in other words, he should be able to make bricks out of straw.