Lighten Up On Snyder

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beemnsevenspop
09-29-2009, 05:56 PM
This is exactly what's happening. What crimes has Snyder committed? Again without replaying the Norv/Marty/Spurrier tune.

Hired Gibbs and gave him total control of the franchise? I'm sure you were against that.
- Hired Zorn, kept Blache and most of coaching staff intact? When the Skins were 6-2 last year I'm sure you had no problem with that.
- Player acquisitions and draft I'd say not terrible, not great. But this falls on Cerrato. He's only had complete control and accountability for less than two years.
Snyder isn't the fault of the recent troubles. He's an easy target for guys with blogs to write stuff trashing Snyder and get web-hits from it. It's good business, right?

I'm all for a GM, if it's Holmgren right now, it makes sense. But for God sakes can we get further down the path of this season before we're tying people to the stake or throwing them in a lake.

ANY and ALL 'Skins fans felt that hiring Gibbs was a brilliant move - UNTIL his four-year record turned out to be 30-34 - (Blasphemous admission forthcoming): personally, I was glad he left a year early, 2 playoff years notwithstanding; the game had clearly passed him by, despite his hall of fame enshrinement...

Yeah, 6-2 was great, but it's a SIXTEEN GAME season - 8-8, ain't so great....unless you are a fan of abject mediocrity...

Player acquisitions "Not so great"????? Oh, PUH-LEEZE!!!!! But since you put the blame on "My Cousin Vinny", just who do you think bears (but has abdicated thus far) the responsibility to kick his fanny to the curb?

Cerrato in control for two years? BULL S***! His fingers have been in the 'Skins pie for NINE years - and if he thought Jeff George were still available for a first-round pick today, you could kiss that pick adios.

PennSkinsFan
09-29-2009, 05:58 PM
Hire a humble GM who is esteemed in the NFL and then sit back and watch him work.

Evaluate that GM's performance after he has archived calculatable results. Only make ownership decisions to keep that GM after his results have been tallied. That is the only on field decisions I want Snyder making.

Snyder can have any other annicillary financial decision that involves the team just not the ones that affect anything on the field.

All of those I've just mentioned would really cost Snyder minimally and Snyder would only have to pay in swallowed pride. Tell Snyder to keep the money in his pockets and his influence in the box and that will end up being the final answer to everything.

Bingo! That is what Rooney's do in Pittsburgh and Kraft does in NE. That is how successful franchises operate. That is also why a once over active owner in hockey, Ted Leonsis, stepped aide and stayed in the box and out of personnel. Guess what, the Caps franchise is now in good shape for the next 5 to 7 years.

Coff
09-29-2009, 06:07 PM
Wow, I never would have guessed these were your feelings from reading your highly unbiased reports at DCPSR. I am amazed at the objectivity that shines through your reports now that I know how you really feel.

Ok, now that was a joke.


But what exactly about his statement do you find wrong?

beemnsevenspop
09-29-2009, 06:08 PM
I would love to see most of you anti-snyder people put in his shoes. if so, chances are in more than half the cases, we fans would go through several years of chasing last year's hot names (look at the fire zorn now thread, or JC sucks threads). and then we would probably go through a couple of years of bring back the glory days, look at people calling for Grimm(he may be the right answer, but a part of the hell yeah sentiment is rooted in his traditions with the Skins), and then if we are honest with ourselves we might try to bring in a FO guy we trust and give him more freedom, even with our input.
I say this, and I believe it, that Snyder is still growing learning, and desperately wants a SB Trophy. It may take a while but I believe he will eventually bring one to DC

I'd like to see me in his shoes too, as long as his wallet was part of the deal. As far as a SB trophy is concerned, even HE doesn't have the necessary funds to buy one -which is how he views the means for its acquisition.

SmootSmack
09-29-2009, 06:11 PM
We'll probably end up with Shanahan or Cowher in full control. And that will make everyone thrilled because it's not Cerrato. But it ignores the fact that Shanahan has been a terrible general manager and Cowher has never even been one.

Cerrato has done a lot in revamping the front office and scouting department the past two off-seasons and has done a decent job in the draft with the picks he has had to work with. The onus is on him entirely for the Taylor trade but it wasn't VC that pushed for the Redskins to send multiple picks for Duckett and Lloyd.

The smartest thing for the Redskins to do in my opinion (short of bringing Marty back!!! :) ) is to promote the well-regarded and respected Morocco Brown to General Manager and keep the scouting staff largely in tact.

Skinny Tee
09-29-2009, 06:21 PM
We'll probably end up with Shanahan or Cowher in full control. And that will make everyone thrilled because it's not Cerrato. But it ignores the fact that Shanahan has been a terrible general manager and Cowher has never even been one.

Cerrato has done a lot in revamping the front office and scouting department the past two off-seasons and has done a decent job in the draft with the picks he has had to work with. The onus is on him entirely for the Taylor trade but it wasn't VC that pushed for the Redskins to send multiple picks for Duckett and Lloyd.

The smartest thing for the Redskins to do in my opinion (short of bringing Marty back!!! :) ) is to promote the well-regarded and respected Morocco Brown to General Manager and keep the scouting staff largely in tact.

I just spewed in my mouth...eeeww...I had spaghetti too...nasty.

That sounds great but what are we trying to keep together? The Joe Gibbs Head Coached w/ Co-Head Coach Gregg Williams team from 2007?...We're a long ways away from 2007 and what was left of Joe Gibbs team is certainly long gone now. Enough with the patch work elements to an outdated Joe Gibbs team from 2007.

Let's place a competitive NFL football team on the field. I don't mind losing games as long as we had a competitive chance to win them. Giants can crush us every year like they have been but if it's down to the wire every game and we're competitive I know we have something we can work towards.

There's nothing to work towards under that structure. Just the same old patch job setting fans up for the hype of the offseason and the dissapointment during post-season.

Longtimefan
09-29-2009, 06:21 PM
What do you want him to do?


Smack, for starters he should/could first consider hiring a credible GM to head-up the day to day operation of the team. As a matter of fact, there's a good man waiting for a call that he fired 10 yrs. ago, and despite that fact I believe he'd still be willing to come back and work for the organization.

He should not be selecting players for the team even though it's his team. He's a marketing executive picking football players, I must be missing something because I don't see the connection. He even admitted he made a mistake in firing Casserly, no better time than now to rectify the mistake.

Lotus
09-29-2009, 06:23 PM
Everyone here has been talking about Danny's actions as owners. It is easy, from this, to come up with pro-Snyder and anti-Snyder arguments.

But what everyone is missing is attitude rather than actions. By "attitude" I do not mean to question whether or not Danny wants the Redskins to win, as he clearly does.

Rather, what I mean when it comes to attitude is, "in what manner does he express his desire to win?" That is, it seems to me that Snyder must go about expressing his desire to win in mistaken ways, because the biggest problem with the Redskins for years has been team culture. Players and coaches have come and gone since DS took over, but what has not changed is team fire to win or team professionalism. Since DS took over the team repeatedly has not shown up for games, apart from a few exceptional instances. The team culture seems to be one where players expect to get accountability passes when they don't show up for games. Such a culture begins at the top.

So I personally don't criticize Snyder for personnel moves, since he seems to be less involved than he used to be. I don't criticize him for free spending on players or gouging fans for money. I don't criticize him for lack of desire to win. I criticize him for creating a team culture in which underachievement is the rule.

Defensewins
09-29-2009, 06:26 PM
Hire a humble GM who is esteemed in the NFL and then sit back and watch him work....



YES PLEASE!
Snyder has tried everything else.
I am not sure what it will take for Snyder to try this approach?
After barely beating the Rams 9-7 and then losing to the Lions in back to back weeks, I think Snyder's ego has to be at an all time low.

Serious Question: In your opinion, what has to happen this year for Snyder to fire Cerratto and this coaching staff, and hire a new GM?
We are not a playoff team. Is playing below .500 ball and not making the playoffs for a second year enough to get them fired?

SmootSmack
09-29-2009, 06:26 PM
I just spewed in my mouth...eeeww...I had spaghetti too...nasty.

That sounds great but what are we trying to keep together? The Joe Gibbs Head Coached w/ Co-Head Coach Gregg Williams team from 2007?...We're a long ways away from 2007 and what was left of Joe Gibbs team is certainly long gone now. Enough with the patch work elements to an outdated Joe Gibbs team from 2007.

Let's place a competitive NFL football team on the field. I don't mind losing games as long as we had a competitive chance to win them. Giants can crush us every year like they have been but if it's down to the wire every game and we're competitive I know we have something we can work towards.

There's nothing to work towards under that structure. Just the same old patch job setting fans up for the hype of the offseason and the dissapointment during post-season.

I don't follow

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