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GusFrerotte 09-29-2009, 05:40 PM Also I just reviewed all the active threads in the Locker Room. Not one is titled Snyder sucks or bench JC. I guess this is a pre emptive thread to counter such threads, but none have been posted recently. Only a couple guys on other threads have said JC sucked or should be benched, and Snyder does deserve some heat. Why do you think they give the Lombardi to the owner after the SB? Guy has to account for something with regards to the FO and the handling of team operations, it is his team.
Skinny Tee 09-29-2009, 05:41 PM I have never been on a season ticket list and got called by the Redskisn and offered season tickets, twice. Yes he is a Redskins fan, are you? I bet he spent way more cash on this franchise than you have.
That's what is wrong with our Snyder and our franchise.
How can money be a mark of your fanhood? Money doesn't make you fan...if so Bill Gates would only reserve the right to be called the biggest fan in the world.
Eff all that. It's not about money. It's about time and effort (non-monetary effort).
The question is what is Dan Snyder doing modern day to help that doesn't involve tons of money???...I don't know the answer do you?
I have never been on a season ticket list and got called by the Redskisn and offered season tickets, twice. Yes he is a Redskins fan, are you? I bet he spent way more cash on this franchise than you have.
I asked him if he was a Skins fan for a specific reason......which you foolishly misinterpreted.
BTW, is cash spent the measure of a Skins fan?
AND, since you probably know little about him, and nothing about me or my Skins spending habit....THAT is....seriously ignorant
SmootSmack 09-29-2009, 05:44 PM That's what is wrong with our Snyder and our franchise.
How can money be a mark of your fanhood? Money doesn't make you fan...if so Bill Gates would only reserve the right to be called the biggest fan in the world.
Eff all that. It's not about money. It's about time and effort (non-monetary effort).
The question is what is Dan Snyder doing modern day to help that doesn't involve tons of money???...I don't know the answer do you?
What do you want him to do?
PennSkinsFan 09-29-2009, 05:45 PM That's what is wrong with our Snyder and our franchise.
How can money be a mark of your fanhood? Money doesn't make you fan...if so Bill Gates would only reserve the right to be called the biggest fan in the world.
Eff all that. It's not about money. It's about time and effort (non-monetary effort).
The question is what is Dan Snyder doing modern day to help that doesn't involve tons of money???...I don't know the answer do you?
No I don't. But I can tell you one idea I have. Step out of football operations, hire a high regarded GM, fire Vinny Cerrato, and allow the GM to rebuild the franchise through youth, smart drafting, and using free agency to supplement an overall plan, kind of like the Steelers and Patriots do. They purposely draft in many rounds with an aim of replacing future players. We seem to draft off a whim. I think a sincere effort to hire a highly reputable front office would go a mile and do wonders for Dan Snyder's status with an angry fan base.
dgack 09-29-2009, 05:45 PM You just don't get it. It's not about how much money is spent, it's about how that money is spent. Snyder can't buy a Super Bowl. If a decade of mediocrity doesn't make an impression on you, I guess nothing will. Again, I'll take a financially cautious ownership like the Rooneys any day of the week and twice on Sundays. [Especially on Sundays!]
I'm going to offer a slightly different viewpoint. I don't think it's HOW that money is spent, either. After all, if Snyder won, we wouldn't care if he was the most wasteful owner on the planet. Their fans don't care about how much dough the Lakers or Yankees spend, right?
Can you say The Danny doesn't care about winning and is just some evil businessman out to extract his profit? I don't think you really can. There are plenty of owners in pro sports who do this and Snyder doesn't fit the mold.
He spends too much money on players and coaches to fit the cheap-ass tightwad owner model (think NBA's Donald Sterling or Michael Heisley here) and the Zorn Experiment clearly shows that he's not just making decisions based on who he thinks can draw the highest revenue to the park.
Never ascribe to malice what can more easily be attributed to incompetence. I think it's quite simple, really: the skills that allowed Snyder to excel in the business world do not translate well in the NFL world.
/shrug.
saden1 09-29-2009, 05:51 PM Snyder sucks...Send me money to buy the Redskins and you'll have a season ticket for life.
Send money to:
P.O. Box 2419
Mumfuga Drive
Lagos, Nigeria.
Thank you.
PennSkinsFan 09-29-2009, 05:53 PM I asked him if he was a Skins fan for a specific reason......which you foolishly misinterpreted.
BTW, is cash spent the measure of a Skins fan?
AND, since you probably know little about him, and nothing about me or my Skins spending habit....THAT is....seriously ignorant
I dont know. I assume if someone is willing to spend thousands on season tickets, they are probably a die hard fan. Is money the measure? Absolutely not. Just like the amount of money Snyder spend is not a measure. And I certainly don't think blindly following Snyder and not getting angry at watching a proud franchise operate dysfucntionally is a measure. You can criticize and mock an owner and still love the franchise, which you seem to imply you can't. If that is the case, 75% of the fan base then aren't fans.
Sorry my friend, I have been a fan since I was 4, that is 36 years, and I have lived through the great eras, the good eras and the bad eras. Sue me for wanting the good times back. Shame on me for wanting a franchise that consistently wins. Shame on me for not wanting my beloved Redskins to be known as the next Cardinals, Browns, Lions, and Bengals.
Yes, i can be a fan and hate the way Dan Snyder runs this team. Yes, I can still be a fan. Matter of fact, I bet, given my age and Snyder's age, I have been a fan just as long as him. As long as Snyder and Cerrato are calling the shots, I simply don't know how we will get better than the last ten years. They have a proven track record. Look at the team from 2000 to present. That is their track record.
You can say he wants to win all you want. Yes, he probably does. Fact is, he is not. And if winning is all that matters to him over money, then he should be trying anything, including taking himself out of the equation, if that is what it takes to win.
Wonder how many were calling for Snyder and Cerrato's heads on Sunday night?
Skinny Tee 09-29-2009, 05:54 PM What do you want him to do?
Hire a humble GM who is esteemed in the NFL and then sit back and watch him work.
Evaluate that GM's performance after he has archived calculatable results. Only make ownership decisions to keep that GM after his results have been tallied. That is the only on field decisions I want Snyder making.
Snyder can have any other annicillary financial decision that involves the team just not the ones that affect anything on the field.
All of those I've just mentioned would really cost Snyder minimally and Snyder would only have to pay in swallowed pride. Tell Snyder to keep the money in his pockets and his influence in the box and that will end up being the final answer to everything.
DynamiteRave 09-29-2009, 05:54 PM Snyder sucks...Send me money to buy the Redskins and you'll have a season ticket for life.
Send money to:
P.O. Box 2419
Mumfuga Drive
Lagos, Nigeria.
Thank you.
I sent my money there over a month ago... Still waiting on my tickets..
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