Lighten Up On Snyder

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firstdown
09-29-2009, 04:59 PM
what do you base this on? i guess the on field product/ wins and losses? because in my eyes, i like the fact that he will do what ever it takes to win. sure, he has made a lot of bad decisions. what owner hasn't? there aren't a lot of owners i would take over Snyder. people around here make me laugh when the bad decisions that are made are solely blamed on Snyder. how many of you guys were happy as hell( at the time) when the skins went out and signed all of the big name free agents? ill bet a whole bunch of you. the only thing that irks me with Snyder is his inability to see we need a football guy running things. and that doesn't mean Mr. Cerrato

Well I will have to say that Dan has been trying to do this for ten years and it seems he makes alot of mistakes again and again. I run a business and if one way failed time and again I try another way until I get it right. Seems like dan keeps banging his head against the same wall with the same results. After watching how he runs the skins I wonder how he was able to start and run a business making all of the money he has.

Slingin Sammy 33
09-29-2009, 04:59 PM
No. People in Salem were accused of crimes they did not commit and killed for them. That's actually nothing like what is happening with Snyder.This is exactly what's happening. What crimes has Snyder committed? Again without replaying the Norv/Marty/Spurrier tune.

- Hired Gibbs and gave him total control of the franchise? I'm sure you were against that.
- Hired Zorn, kept Blache and most of coaching staff intact? When the Skins were 6-2 last year I'm sure you had no problem with that.
- Player acquisitions and draft I'd say not terrible, not great. But this falls on Cerrato. He's only had complete control and accountability for less than two years.

Snyder isn't the fault of the recent troubles. He's an easy target for guys with blogs to write stuff trashing Snyder and get web-hits from it. It's good business, right?

I'm all for a GM, if it's Holmgren right now, it makes sense. But for God sakes can we get further down the path of this season before we're tying people to the stake or throwing them in a lake.

Spence
09-29-2009, 05:04 PM
I'm pretty sure most of the "twerp" articles would be around his business dealings. Business is business, not personal.Nonsense. I judge a person based on all their actions. Your view, apparently, is that someone can do anything they like as long as they say it is "just business." You're welcome to that view. I don't share it.

If you're not cool with the parking/ticket prices, team's performance, etc. Don't go, don't watch, no one's holding a gun to your head.So, let's make sure we both understand what you just wrote. If I don't like the performance of the team Snyder owns, the only thing I should do is stop watching them. I should not complain, I should not form opinions and I most certainly should not give voice to those opinions. I should either support Snyder whole-heartedly or go away, forget the team and never speak of it again. I'm not saying you work for Dan Snyder, but you should. Anyone that slavishly obedient should be getting a paycheck.

No one complains when Snyder strokes massive checks, flys the team to ST's funeral, and supports the players families.The money Snyder spends is of little concern to me. What he gets for that money is what matters and what he's gotten so far is a .455 winning percentage. To you, that's worthy of unthinking loyalty and obedience. To me, it is not. Again, diff'rent strokes and all.

Without revenue Snyder continues to bring in, we will at some point be limited in our options financially.You just don't get it. It's not about how much money is spent, it's about how that money is spent. Snyder can't buy a Super Bowl. If a decade of mediocrity doesn't make an impression on you, I guess nothing will. Again, I'll take a financially cautious ownership like the Rooneys any day of the week and twice on Sundays. [Especially on Sundays!]

beemnsevenspop
09-29-2009, 05:08 PM
Yeah...how can you not like Snyder more after reading this article???


Oh yeah - what a couple of regular Joes those two megalomaniac billionaires are....

Spence
09-29-2009, 05:08 PM
If you check around, you'll find it's outrageous to see ANY NFL team. I don't know if we are the highest or not. HOWEVER, if you don't want to deal with that..........don't go. Simple, right?
AND.....last time I checked, there were about 100k people waiting for ticks
HTTRI've already taken your sound advice. I've sold my tickets this season. I'm not stupid enough to pay for what has accurately been described as one of the worst game day experiences in American sports. I did that for 10 years. That was enough, thank you.

And no, there are not 100K people waiting for tickets. In fact, there might not be anyone waiting for tickets. Just another Snyder lie. Read it (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2009/04/29/redskins-waiting-list-totally-gone-to-hell-are-blackouts-coming-to-a-tv-near-you/).

Spence
09-29-2009, 05:10 PM
This is exactly what's happening. What crimes has Snyder committed? Again without replaying the Norv/Marty/Spurrier tune.If you really think that being accused of incompetence after a decade of .455 football is akin to being burned at the stake, then I think we've exhausted the possibilities of this conversation.

Hog1
09-29-2009, 05:13 PM
I've already taken your sound advice. I've sold my tickets this season. I'm not stupid enough to pay for what has accurately been described as one of the worst game day experiences in American sports. I did that for 10 years. That was enough, thank you.

And no, there are not 100K people waiting for tickets. In fact, there might not be anyone waiting for tickets. Just another Snyder lie. Read it (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2009/04/29/redskins-waiting-list-totally-gone-to-hell-are-blackouts-coming-to-a-tv-near-you/).
I got on the waiting list 3 or 4 years ago and at that time I was like #110,000 in line. Things may have changed since then.
BTW, do you consider yourself a Skins fan?

MTK
09-29-2009, 05:13 PM
Snyder has been receiving a lot of negative backlash after this loss to the Lions. Everyone should lighten up because Snyder isn't such a bad guy. Though it's hard to find some things that ingratiate him right now check out this article from last year.

The cellphone trick he pulls is just hiliarious!...too funny...Snyder's not so bad.

It's a rich rivalry for Dallas Cowboys, Redskins owners: Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder are friendly rivals (http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2008/09/28/3673802.htm)

Well, kudos to you for trying to post some light hearted material. As you can see it's been killed by the debbie downers. Waahhhh - waahhhhh

Skinny Tee
09-29-2009, 05:16 PM
No. People in Salem were accused of crimes they did not commit and killed for them. That's actually nothing like what is happening with Snyder.

Also the people in Salem were falsely tried for being Supernatural Demons...there's nothing false in that same accuastion for Snyder.

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Spence
09-29-2009, 05:23 PM
Well, I can see I'm not going to change any minds today. Thanks for the back-and-forth, Skins fans. I'm sure we'll continue this conversation [and begin others] later. Have a good one.

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