Green1
09-29-2009, 09:44 AM
So which is? Portis and the backs, Oline and there issues, or Zorn,Buges, and coaching staff? Id say the most likely the Oline. The right side is garbage trying to run the ball. But I would also say we mos def need someone new back there running the ball. Portis and Betts are similar runners, we need somebody who is quicker out of the backfield. Im in favor of giving Mason, Aldridge more carries to see what we have, and if we can improve and I completely support a using one of the first pics on someone new (the other on a lineman of course).
The Oline and Zorn. Zorn calls the same stretch play ever 1st down. The D knows what is coming. Oline is not blocking anyone.
dmvskinzfan08
09-29-2009, 12:21 PM
Dead on!
I think the blocking is OK, but Portis has lost a step people.:doh:
jsarno
09-29-2009, 05:06 PM
:doh:
You are obviously under the assumption that the blocking piss poor then? I'm not saying we are blocking at a very good pace, but it's OK...average. It absolutely should be better, but we should also have a running back that can hit the holes considering what he's getting paid.
The blocking has been mediocre at best (short yardage though has been brutal). The bigger issue is the offense hasn't been on the field long enough to establish the run.
dmvskinzfan08
09-29-2009, 06:26 PM
You are obviously under the assumption that the blocking piss poor then? I'm not saying we are blocking at a very good pace, but it's OK...average. It absolutely should be better, but we should also have a running back that can hit the holes considering what he's getting paid.
NO assumptions. We had 0 yard rushing in the first half. Let me repeat that 0. We are not playing the Ravens or Pittsburgh when Polomalu (excuse my spelling) is there. When you can't get a yard or open a hole it is piss poor. We were playing the Detroit Lions.
Your words: "we should also have a running back that can hit the holes considering what he's getting paid"
You act like Portis has been a bum his whole career or is a rookie who is just starting to learn how to run the ball. There is no hole. The O-line gets bitched on running plays. I wont even address this anymore. Because you obviously dont get it. Even if you think Portis has lost a step. He knows how to hit a hole. Now taking it the distance is something totally different. Further more he is running the plays the way they are supposed to be run. We shoud be runing up the middle. But our O-line is not that good to even do that. Its patchwork at best. I think you are in denial.
SirClintonPortis
09-29-2009, 06:32 PM
It seems Philly's short yardage problems last year has transferred over to the Skins' red zone running game.
Zerohero
09-29-2009, 07:00 PM
Bad blocking, same running plays, average running backs. Our change of pace rb is a slower Portis who doesnt run as hard. That 4th and 1 run was beyond pathetic, Portis fell down. He wasnt tackled, HE FELL DOWN.
dmvskinzfan08
09-29-2009, 07:19 PM
Bad blocking, same running plays, average running backs. Our change of pace rb is a slower Portis who doesnt run as hard. That 4th and 1 run was beyond pathetic, Portis fell down. He wasnt tackled, HE FELL DOWN.
Actually I think he got shoe string tackled. Sayign that the O-line should have blocked better. I agree with everything you said besides that and Clinton is a little above average. But our O-line would makes anyone look average. But you are correct. All Betts is good for is catching the ball out the backfield. But we all know the Betts Rock lovefest will continue.
Zerohero
09-29-2009, 07:37 PM
Actually I think he got shoe string tackled. Sayign that the O-line should have blocked better. I agree with everything you said besides that and Clinton is a little above average. But our O-line would makes anyone look average. But you are correct. All Betts is good for is catching the ball out the backfield. But we all know the Betts Rock lovefest will continue.
Thats kind of the point, on a 1 yard play you dont go down on a shoestring attempt of a tackle. It's just pessimism on my part, right now everything looks bad and everyone sucks. All seriousness, Clinton does not have it anymore, and i think last years fast start was more on the Oline healthy and clicking.
Longtimefan
09-29-2009, 09:50 PM
What happened to it?
In the opening game against the Giants Portis broke off 34 yds. and the running game has been virtually non existent since that time.
The running game has no versatility, I've only seen one running play and that's portis left. This is not going to change because every team in the league knows we're going to run left. Show run formation, defenses slant to their right, play over. Run game needs an influx of creativity.