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GTripp0012 10-31-2009, 01:10 AM Personally I've never been too impressed with Smith, and was pretty stunned when the Niners passed on Rodgers for him.
Still, in the interest of fairness, I felt it should be pointed out he has had to deal with various coordinatorsIt's going to be real interesting with Smith now that he has a largely developed Vernon Davis and a Michael Crabtree running routes with Frank Gore in the backfield there.
Their OL kinda sucks too, but they really could do something down the stretch with Smith at QB. The 49ers have largely been void of talent for much of the second half of the decade, but every one of their first round draft picks since 2005 are now in the starting lineup, which I'm sure is something not a lot of franchises can boast.
Well, I guess Kentwan Balmer isn't, but he was as much of a first rounder as Patrick Ramsey was.
mlmdub130 10-31-2009, 01:15 AM Personally I've never been too impressed with Smith, and was pretty stunned when the Niners passed on Rodgers for him.
Still, in the interest of fairness, I felt it should be pointed out he has had to deal with various coordinators
that statement pisses me off so much, you are either accurate or not, and honestly he isn't, but i think "I think a franchise QB can help an OL more than a franchise OL can help a QB" is very ture just look at big ben in pitt, the only problem picking a qb like tha out of the draft is like hitting the mega millions
mcarey032 10-31-2009, 01:34 AM He's off to his best start as a pro, and even the sack rate which is probably the most important stat that isn't contained in QB rating is down around career-best levels.
I think he needs to protect the football better, especially on play action plays. He's almost regressed from last year in that respect.
I believe that is due in part because he is pressing. He is trying to make things happen because the offense in general is so stagnate. I can't say that I blame Campbell. You want to stand tall in the pocket, but when you get sacked 6 times and you are probably hit more than double that it is hard to not try and make something happen.
mlmdub130 10-31-2009, 01:42 AM I believe that is due in part because he is pressing. He is trying to make things happen because the offense in general is so stagnate. I can't say that I blame Campbell. You want to stand tall in the pocket, but when you get sacked 6 times and you are probably hit more than double that it is hard to not try and make something happen.
i would love nothing more than to say he has but he hasn't, i really loved jc when we drafted he considering i HATE bama, but he hasn't panned out, but i know we will dish him out or just drop him striaght up and he will end up tearing it up some where just hopefully in the afc
A10sROCK 10-31-2009, 03:22 AM Football is a team sport.
You cannot judge a QB by their win/loss record alone.
Look at the W/L records of Rodgers in Green Bay or Drew Brees w/ the Saints(prior to this year).
Even when he has impeccable protection?
When has he even had good protection? Save for a handful of times last game?
The question you need to ask yourself is does JC makes these mistakes more then other QBs?
And if JC was making all these mistakes more often the other QBs playing behind a worse OL, without a running game, with a average at best receiving corps, and inconsistent to below average play calling and coaching then how is it that he's the 18th rated QB in the league?
Junk yardage?
The TD to Devin Thomas was junk yardage?
On the drive that lead to Fred Davis TD the Eagles weren't playing prevent they were still blitzing.
Defend JC all you want. What NFL teams go 40-50 games with a QB who can't win? I'll make a bet right now that after this season he will NOT be an NFL starter. JC simply is not an NFL quality QB. Most of it is mental. There's no way you're going to tell me that JC has never had pass protection in his last 4 seasons. He not a leader and he only can perform when he has confidence [which he's lost].
It is a team sport and JC is not the teams biggest problem. But without a good QB we can never get this offense going.
I'll check in next season and we'll see that the rest of the NFL realizes that Campbell doesn't have the goods.
SmootSmack 10-31-2009, 12:21 PM Speaking of offensive linemen
Jon Jansen will be on guard for the Lions | detnews.com | The Detroit News (http://www.detnews.com/article/20091031/SPORTS0101/910310332/1126/SPORTS0101/Jon-Jansen-will-be-on-guard-for-the-Lions)
tryfuhl 10-31-2009, 12:26 PM They just started getting ridiculous with the permanent bans. I myself got banned for life last night. They gave no reason. I suspected that some of my posts were unpopular with the moderators. I had been there since 2005 with no incidents whatsoever, and then last night got permanently banned. No lie, within the past month, i know of at least 50 people who have been banned for life. I saw 5 or 6 of them on here today.
The board over there is a mess...one guy named "Jumbo", apparantly launched into a racial tirade last night....they even called in about it today on 106.7 The Fan.....its just a couple bad mods ruined it for everyone...
Yep, that place is ridiculous for an "official" board
Redskin Warrior 10-31-2009, 12:29 PM i would love nothing more than to say he has but he hasn't, i really loved jc when we drafted he considering i HATE bama , but he hasn't panned out, but i know we will dish him out or just drop him striaght up and he will end up tearing it up some where just hopefully in the afc
You know JC didn't go to Bama he went to Auburn unless you mean Alabama as a whole
tryfuhl 10-31-2009, 12:31 PM I believe that is due in part because he is pressing. He is trying to make things happen because the offense in general is so stagnate. I can't say that I blame Campbell. You want to stand tall in the pocket, but when you get sacked 6 times and you are probably hit more than double that it is hard to not try and make something happen.
sometimes he pushes through the pocket.. or won't step into it... moves to the wrong part, etc.. it's frustrating
tryfuhl 10-31-2009, 12:33 PM Speaking of offensive linemen
Jon Jansen will be on guard for the Lions | detnews.com | The Detroit News (http://www.detnews.com/article/20091031/SPORTS0101/910310332/1126/SPORTS0101/Jon-Jansen-will-be-on-guard-for-the-Lions)
good for him I guess
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