Campbell's numbers dont lie

The most important statistic of a QB is the Win/loss ratio. JC is just not a winner, even when he has impeccable protection. We do have a bad OL, but JC doesn't have the leadership skills and gets rattled easy.

JC is just not a NFL caliber QB. I can't hit the long passes. Many of his best passes were YAC made by the WR/TE/RB. He often misses wide open WR by not seeing them, throwing over, under, behind, etc. He has a poor feel for the rush - either stepping into the rush, rushing his pass when he has time or holding the ball too long. All these "feel" mistakes can be blamed on the poor OL, but other QB in the NFL make money out of it. JC can not.

Much of the stats that are sighted are the "junk yards" (like the last game) where the teams are giving him yardage at the end of the game we are going to lose.

I predict that JC will never start again in the NFL. He's quickly playing himself out of the NFL, except as a perennial #2 or #3 QB.

JC has the skills, but not the temperament. His stats make him look better than he is because he doesn't (or isnt allowed to) take chances. But mainly, he isn't strong-willed enough. I'll bet he has no presence in the huddle. I've never seen any emotion out of the guy on the field or otherwise. And have you seen his press-conferences.....so mild mannered and doesn't even look the camera in the eye.

Although O-line is a glaring need. How much time do other QB's get in order to get the ball off? I'll agree with you guys that the O-line needs to be upgraded and needs to learn how to block as a team, otherwise the run game will be stifled.

Well if you realize that the OL isn't up to par in the running game or the passing game what makes you think the still give JC as much time as other OLs?

I did see some jail breaks in the Eagles game, but other then that JC gets around 3-7 seconds to get rid of the ball on his pass plays. I think most QB's get 3-7 seconds to get the ball off.

I think you need to research how much time a QB gets in the pocket because you are way off base.
If you don't want to look it up, watch a game with stop watch that goes to the hundredths.

You'll find the following:
3 seconds of pass pro would be considered average
1.5-1.7 seconds on a 3 step drop the ball should be coming out (a QB should not get hit on a 3 step drop)
4-5 seconds behind a good OL on 5-7 step drop
7 seconds of protection almost never happens

Yeah 7 seconds is ridiculous...

Typically if a QB gets a full 3 seconds, that's good protection.

The most important statistic of a QB is the Win/loss ratio. JC is just not a winner, even when he has impeccable protection. We do have a bad OL, but JC doesn't have the leadership skills and gets rattled easy.

Football is a team sport.
You cannot judge a QB by their win/loss record alone.
Look at the W/L records of Rodgers in Green Bay or Drew Brees w/ the Saints(prior to this year).

Even when he has impeccable protection?
When has he even had good protection? Save for a handful of times last game?

JC is just not a NFL caliber QB. I can't hit the long passes. Many of his best passes were YAC made by the WR/TE/RB. He often misses wide open WR by not seeing them, throwing over, under, behind, etc. He has a poor feel for the rush - either stepping into the rush, rushing his pass when he has time or holding the ball too long. All these "feel" mistakes can be blamed on the poor OL, but other QB in the NFL make money out of it. JC can not.

The question you need to ask yourself is does JC makes these mistakes more then other QBs?
And if JC was making all these mistakes more often the other QBs playing behind a worse OL, without a running game, with a average at best receiving corps, and inconsistent to below average playcalling and coaching then how is it that he's the 18th rated QB in the league?

Much of the stats that are sighted are the "junk yards" (like the last game) where the teams are giving him yardage at the end of the game we are going to lose.

Junk yardage?
The TD to Devin Thomas was junk yardage?
On the drive that lead to Fred Davis TD the Eagles weren't playing prevent they were still blitzing.

30gut we will just have to disagree. Like I stated, I wanted JC to be that franchise type but to me he just doenst have it. From a mental and leadership perspective of the position he gets very low marks. Good Oline or not. Physical standpoint, he has all the tools. Yeah coaching has some to do with it, maybe he has had too many changes but that is water under the bridge. Another year, another coach, another system is not going to benefit JC here, its time to move on. And like I said, management does not want him here, he has had his chance, good luck to him.

JC has the skills, but not the temperament. His stats make him look better than he is

I'd say JC has the skills.
His stats make him look good because he has suspect OL, no running, average receiving corps, and up until now inconsistent to lousy playcalling and is still the 18th rated QB in the NFL.

All the Skins have to do is win a couple games and i'm sure a bunch of you guys will change your tune.

HTTR!

30gut we will just have to disagree. Like I stated, I wanted JC to be that franchise type but to me he just doenst have it. From a mental and leadership perspective of the position he gets very low marks. Good Oline or not. Physical standpoint, he has all the tools. Yeah coaching has some to do with it, maybe he has had too many changes but that is water under the bridge. Another year, another coach, another system is not going to benefit JC here, its time to move on. And like I said, management does not want him here, he has had his chance, good luck to him.

We can agree to disagree.
But when people start in with the bashing rhetoric its hard for me to remain silent in the face of spurios claims. http://www.thewarpath.net/618206-post922.html
Hey, if you don't think JC can be any better then the 18th QB in the league given the circumstances, cool.
But no need to bash the dude.

I just don't understand how anyone can judge JC negatively this season.
There aren't many QBs in the league that would play better in this situation.
And if JC is gone next year who are we gonna find thats actually better?
Finding different is easy finding better is another story.

Don't drink coffee

Sorry to get you all riled up during your quest. Campbell long passes: Week 3=57 looked like number of long passes to me

Don't worry about it, I didn't get it at first either.


:silly:

Someone said JC is doing the "Brunell dink-and dunk" and claimed he doesn't go downfield, so I posted his long completions for each week. Standard stat, I thought! :D

Sorry Buster you were a bit vague in your explanation of "Campbell long passes".

Next time make a play, ok?