Campbell's numbers dont lie


SmootSmack
10-29-2009, 07:06 AM
Please correct me if I'm wrong, I don't recall if it was you or another poster, but didn't you want Sanchez? 52.8% comp, 6 tds, 10 ints, 7 fumbles. I was dead set against him, and it appears he is proving me right.

I'm pretty sure Tripp was against Sanchez. Sanchez doesn't fit Tripp's requirements, namely his college experience was very limited

DBUCHANON101
10-29-2009, 07:09 AM
Yeah, better than over half the QBs in the NFL

HAHAHAHA Thanks i needed a good laugh to start my day.

DBUCHANON101
10-29-2009, 07:18 AM
And you guys cant get all over Sanchez, ITS HIS 1st YR IN THE SYSTEM. --this excuse was brought to you by JC supporters everywhere--

Name another 1st round QB who has been with a team for 5 yrs and has yet to make the playoffs. thats still in the league. I cant think of any right off hand.

jdlea
10-29-2009, 07:31 AM
And you guys cant get all over Sanchez, ITS HIS 1st YR IN THE SYSTEM. --this excuse was brought to you by JC supporters everywhere--

Name another 1st round QB who has been with a team for 5 yrs and has yet to make the playoffs. thats still in the league. I cant think of any right off hand.

Rodgers, Smith, and Campbell. There are plenty of other guys in the league who would qualify for the list, but I misread "been with a team for 5 yrs."

That's the list I was able to come up with. Not exactly a ringing endorsement, but it does happen.

CRedskinsRule
10-29-2009, 07:43 AM
JC has had every opportunity. Regardless of the line, playcalling, injuries, etc. this is the NFL, and at some point the qb leads or gets out of the way. He should finish the season as the starter, only because no one is going to step up and do better than him. Once the season is over, he will be a perennial backup, and maybe he will flourish in that role. It's not unheard of. He obviously has lots of physical skill, it just doesn't translate to a team leader. He has charisma, and personal skills, and he can run a 2 minute drive fairly well when given control. But something- that intangible IT- or killer instinct or whatever, just isn't there. And it's a shame because, had he had IT, we would have been praising Gibbs et al for bringing him in. Instead it's just another aggravating factor for us fans who have lots of aggravation already.

DBUCHANON101
10-29-2009, 07:53 AM
Rodgers, Smith, and Campbell. There are plenty of other guys in the league who would qualify for the list, but I misread "been with a team for 5 yrs."

That's the list I was able to come up with. Not exactly a ringing endorsement, but it does happen.

Rodgers looks to be on his way and Smith is fighting for his career at this point. He was headed straight for "bust" status before last Sunday. Rodgers who has been sacked more than JC has 9 more plays of 20+ and 6 more plays of 40+ yards than JC. Hell even Smith came off the bench and threw 3 tds in a HALF of football. Im just saying ive rarely seen JC hit a wr in stride or throw the ball to a spot before the wr made his cut on a timing route. Most of his throws are when the wr is looking straight at him and he throws it to him.

jdlea
10-29-2009, 07:59 AM
Rodgers looks to be on his way and Smith is fighting for his career at this point. He was headed straight for "bust" status before last Sunday. Rodgers who has been sacked more than JC has 9 more plays of 20+ and 6 more plays of 40+ yards than JC. Hell even Smith came off the bench and threw 3 tds in a HALF of football. Im just saying ive rarely seen JC hit a wr in stride or throw the ball to a spot before the wr made his cut on a timing route. Most of his throws are when the wr is looking straight at him and he throws it to him.

Dude, I just answered your question...at this point, I'm sort of numb to everything. I feel bad for Jason because I think it's clear that it's not going to work here, but I don't blame it all on him. It wasn't an ideal situation he was put into (changing coordinators, overmatched head coach who's a bad play caller and turn styles for offensive lineman), but that matters little now. The Skins are going to move on (and I can understand why) and I am too. I just wish Colt or Chase were on the roster so they could go to a young guy and see if he can get it done. If you're going to lose, lose with a purpose at least.

One thing I will add to this, however, is that Collins can't do better and I promise Colt wouldn't either, so I think it should apparent that it's more than just the QB, but I'm tired of this discussion. I don't think Jason will ever be an elite QB, but I don't believe he's worse than average under the right circumstances, either.

CRedskinsRule
10-29-2009, 08:09 AM
Dude, I just answered your question...at this point, I'm sort of numb to everything. I feel bad for Jason because I think it's clear that it's not going to work here, but I don't blame it all on him. It wasn't an ideal situation he was put into (changing coordinators, overmatched head coach who's a bad play caller and turn styles for offensive lineman), but that matters little now. The Skins are going to move on (and I can understand why) and I am too. I just wish Colt or Chase were on the roster so they could go to a young guy and see if he can get it done. If you're going to lose, lose with a purpose at least.

One thing I will add to this, however, is that Collins can't do better and I promise Colt wouldn't either, so I think it should apparent that it's more than just the QB, but I'm tired of this discussion. I don't think Jason will ever be an elite QB, but I don't believe he's worse than average under the right circumstances, either.

This is a very good description of how I feel also.

Chico23231
10-29-2009, 08:27 AM
It seems to me when we all watch the game we see the same thing, JC struggling, the Oline struggling, the receivers struggling, etc. But after we all regroup and begin to give opinions about everything, there are a portion of people who seem to point back and say well if you look at the stats and sum of all games, everything is ok, JC is a good quarterback, etc. That is fine and your opinion. Yes it is not all JC fault, but he is mos def a major part of it since he has the ball in his hand most of the time. He has the physical tools, but what I cant understand is how people cannot see that he cannot mentally make the decisions to lead this team to a win. He doesnt make 1 person better on that field. He cannot lead period. He is over thinking and hesitant. He goes through progression too fast when he HAS time in the pocket. He misses guys who come open. His overthinking throws off the rhythming of his throws and screws up his foot work, so it is leading to physical mistakes. Ive like and supported JC in the past, and wanted him to succeed, but even when the season started Ive been disappointed from the first game. Second season in the system and my expectations were higher. After 4 years it is pretty clear to me to see what we have, so it is time to move on from defending him and plus, look the FO doesnt want him here its pretty obvious he wont be here next year.

SBXVII
10-29-2009, 09:02 AM
Every time I see this thread..."Campbell's numbers don't lie."
I want to add.....Yeah but they don't tell the truth either. ;)

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