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Monkeydad 10-19-2009, 04:10 PM Nice try. It still doesn't change the fact that he's DONE.
Another thorough and fact-based argument!
Seriously, you base your debates on emotions and personal opinions.
What makes you say "he's DONE"?
Have you even looked at the stats you attack with your stubborn anti-Campbell arguments?
What makes you think that a new playcaller can't help the QB? Even if Sherman is not the greatest playcaller, at least we'll be running different plays instead of the same, scripted scheme we've failed with nearly every week this season.
Monkeydad 10-19-2009, 04:15 PM Like it or not, Campbell is simply not suited to be a WCO Quarterback. Can he do it - sure. Any QB can play the WCO if he has to - but the key is he can't do it well.
An undefeated season (should have been a National Champonship) at Auburn says otherwise.
I see a lot of talent and physical ability with Campbell, even signs of leadership forming after being so shy and business-like in earlier years.
He's obviously being held back by poor playcalling and personnel decisions, mainly regarding the offensive line, or lack of. You can see it clearly. As the line breaks down over the year, and last season also, his numbers begin to decline. Also, as other teams figure out Zorn's playcalls as the season progresses and we become more predictable, both this year and last year, his performances can't possibly improve.
When protected and in a good offensive scheme, he excels.
dgack 10-19-2009, 04:20 PM I'm a big fan of Jason Campbell (the man, not necessarily the job he has done this season) and even I think it's pretty obvious he is done here in D.C.
The best case scenario for him is that Sherman Hemsley (err Lewis? or is it Smith? I forget) just whispers into Jason's headset "let it fly, kid" and they go out and put on a show. Even still, unless they win out against vastly superior opponents to the cupcakes they've faced thus far, there's no way this team makes the playoffs. And no playoffs means Jason is done here.
I still think he'll go elsewhere and play well next year. I'm certainly willing to admit that because of his personal qualities, I want him to find success -- and maybe that clouds my objectivity -- but I find the constant chant of "this kid isn't good enough" from all the media types is just too easy.
Twilbert07 10-19-2009, 04:25 PM This isn't baseball where individual players have win-loss records.
That's Zorn's record.
You don't think QBs are judged by their W-L record? Hmmm. They get too much credit and too much blame, but as the field leader, that's the name of the game.
Trample the Elderly 10-19-2009, 04:29 PM No way. There is nothing that I would want to see more than Soup hold up that Lombardy Trophy up and prove everyone wrong. The man has class. He might be a good QB for another team. He might be a good back up like Collins. Al Synderatto ruined him the minute he hired Jimbo. He's done though. Even that duffus Jimbo knows that. As for his numbers, eff statistics! As a man smarter than myself once said, "There are lies, damn lies, and statisitics." I think it was Twain but don't hold me to that.
I came to the realization that this was coming on like, week one. This is funny to me. What else can you do but laugh? They haven't earned any more of my anger. They deserve my ridicule and spite. Except for the Defense, I've no love for this team, especially the grifter in chief. Suing an old lady? Man eff you. A pox on your house. And that's from the heart.
It does give me pleasure to see Danny cry. Because even though my anger has been replaced with humor, cynicism, and indifference, I know Snyder is up in his suite shitting his britches. When Phat All lays on his back in the middle of the field, in every game, I laugh my ass off. It makes me feel really good knowing that King Douche feels so bad.
Monkeydad 10-19-2009, 04:32 PM No way. There is nothing that I would want to see more than Soup hold up that Lombardy Trophy up and prove everyone wrong. The man has class. He might be a good QB for another team. He might be a good back up like Collins. Al Synderatto ruined him the minute he hired Jimbo. He's done though. Even that duffus Jimbo knows that. As for his numbers, eff statistics! As a man smarter than myself once said, "There are lies, damn lies, and statisitics." I think it was Twain but don't hold me to that.
I came to the realization that this was coming on like, week one. This is funny to me. What else can you do but laugh? They haven't earned any more of my anger. They deserve my ridicule and spite. Except for the Defense, I've no love for this team, especially the grifter in chief. Suing an old lady? Man eff you. A pox on your house. And that's from the heart.
It does give me pleasure to see Danny cry. Because even though my anger has been replaced with humor, cynicism, and indifference, I know Snyder is up in his suite shitting his britches. When Phat All lays on his back in the middle of the field, in every game, I laugh my ass off. It makes me feel really good knowing that King Douche feels so bad.
It's not cool to speak in third-person, you know.
Trample the Elderly 10-19-2009, 04:35 PM It's not cool to speak in third-person, you know.
Are you going to apologize for Snyder?
Trample the Elderly 10-19-2009, 04:41 PM You know I take some of that back. Sometimes I get a little overzealous. I don't wish a pox on Snyder's family.
tryfuhl 10-19-2009, 05:00 PM Fair enough, I'll stop sort of saying that Gibbs 'ruined him' but while he may have been a good 'fit' for Gibbs system, I don't think he was a good fit with Gibbs.
Enough about that though, his lack of development and production this season has been disappointing to me-but I don't know that anyone else will do anything better behind this line.
May be true, may not have mattered
Not every QB is going to develop no matter who the coach is.
tryfuhl 10-19-2009, 05:02 PM You really put JC in the same sentence with Brady, McNadd, Warner & Palmer?
Some people like stats and think that it tells the whole story.
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