Campbell's numbers dont lie


GTripp0012
10-19-2009, 01:38 PM
Shaun Suisham wants to know why you're a haterIn 2007, Todd Collins and Shaun Suisham.

At least Hunter Smith has scored a touchdown.

Trample the Elderly
10-19-2009, 01:44 PM
Soup is done. Whine about him and his effing numbers if you want. He's done. Gone! Just like Jimbo. Packs your bags buddy!

Is it his fault? Does it really effing matter now as far as he's concerned?

The only thing right about this whole situation is that we stopped playing musical chairs with the QB. We played Soup out and he's done. Kaput! Over, Nada, El Zippo.

Get over it.

dgack
10-19-2009, 01:56 PM
Soup is done. Whine about him and his effing numbers if you want. He's done. Gone! Just like Jimbo. Packs your bags buddy!

Is it his fault? Does it really effing matter now as far as he's concerned?

The only thing right about this whole situation is that we stopped playing musical chairs with the QB. We played Soup out and he's done. Kaput! Over, Nada, El Zippo.

Get over it.

I think you're confused on what the definition of whining is. I've seen a lot of internet whining in my day, but statistical analysis and critical thinking really doesn't qualify.

Thanks for playing.

Monkeydad
10-19-2009, 02:43 PM
I think you're confused on what the definition of whining is. I've seen a lot of internet whining in my day, but statistical analysis and critical thinking really doesn't qualify.

Thanks for playing.

Don't get too upset, that's a typical Trample post. :D

Monkeydad
10-19-2009, 02:45 PM
It really doesn't matter. No QB has a chance with our piss poor O-line. No way to sugarcoat it. The O-Line is garbage. Not one quality player. Campbell or Collins, they don't have time to do anything.

How would Brett Favre be doing behind our line?

It all starts up front.

Which is MORE of a reason to use the QB who is a very mobile, excellent runner...who also has the stronger arm of the two.

Monkeydad
10-19-2009, 02:46 PM
Campbell's most important number is 4-10 over his past 14 starts. Time to try something different.

This isn't baseball where individual players have win-loss records.

That's Zorn's record.

firstdown
10-19-2009, 02:51 PM
As I pointed out last week, he's got a higher YPA than Brady, McNabb, Cutler, Warner & Palmer. Seriously, it's sad how misinformed his detractors are.
You really put JC in the same sentence with Brady, McNadd, Warner & Palmer?

Trample the Elderly
10-19-2009, 02:51 PM
I think you're confused on what the definition of whining is. I've seen a lot of internet whining in my day, but statistical analysis and critical thinking really doesn't qualify.

Thanks for playing.

Nice try. It still doesn't change the fact that he's DONE.

dgack
10-19-2009, 02:55 PM
Nice try. It still doesn't change the fact that he's DONE.

Again, I think you're confused about reality. I have no delusions that posting analysis on an internet message board is going to help Jason Campbell keep his job.

But hey, I'm glad you're so happy about it. At least you'll be in a better mood than the rest of us while this team loses out and then proceeds to "win the offseason" next year.

BigHairedAristocrat
10-19-2009, 03:03 PM
I don't think the WCO is the issue, I just think that this is what we've built. Last year (first five games), we had five good or great players on offense: Kendall, Samuels, Portis, Campbell, and Cooley. As the year went on, Samuels and Portis became ineffective players for one reason or another, and that left us with three. Kendall walked in the offseason (he was probably having a career year anyway), and we replaced him, shrewedly, but with a mediocre Dockery.


You made a lot of great points and I agreed with most of it except what you said here. With 5 undisputedly "good" (not great) players on offense last year we should have been much better than we were. This year, we've lost a couple of those guys and others have declined. However, I think one of the key problems with our entire offense is that we don't have the right personnel to run it. Like it or not, Campbell is simply not suited to be a WCO Quarterback. Can he do it - sure. Any QB can play the WCO if he has to - but the key is he can't do it well. Then there's Portis, who has bulked up from his denver days and is a power runner, he's not explosive and not a great pass-catcher either - not the right type of feature back for a WCO. And we can complain all we want about how bad our O-line is, because it is bad, but its not the right type of offensive line to run a WCO. Even when healthy, the line wasnt light or agile enough to run the WCO effectively.

When it boils down to it, Vinny and Danny made a huge mistake by hiring a WCO coach and not replacing the current offensive personnel. As a result, they've wasted two years of everyones time and wasted alot of potential.

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