Campbell's numbers dont lie


SOUL-SKINS
10-19-2009, 01:44 PM
I wonder if Lewis will make the call of who starts.

No Zorn just said in his press conf. that he will make that decision.

dgack
10-19-2009, 01:48 PM
I just ran some numbers on the team's average passer rating over the past two decades, and I think some of you may be surprised how it shakes out.

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/32798-myth-its-all-insert-qbs-name.html

Yes, I know many will say that stats don't tell the whole story, and they aren't intended to. That said, there is no reason we shouldn't be a 9-7 ball club or better with Jason Campbell and the numbers he is putting up.

Twilbert07
10-19-2009, 01:48 PM
Campbell's most important number is 4-10 over his past 14 starts. Time to try something different.

BigHairedAristocrat
10-19-2009, 01:50 PM
Why are all the former Campbell-supporters suddenly against him now? His play now isn't any worse as it was last year or the year before when we were saying he wasn't the right QB for this team. His completion percentage has actually IMPROVED a little every year. So what's changed your minds about Campbell? Or is it just a case of not seeing the improvement you were hoping for?

irish
10-19-2009, 01:55 PM
I just ran some numbers on the team's average passer rating over the past two decades, and I think some of you may be surprised how it shakes out.

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/32798-myth-its-all-insert-qbs-name.html

Yes, I know many will say that stats don't tell the whole story, and they aren't intended to. That said, there is no reason we shouldn't be a 9-7 ball club or better with Jason Campbell and the numbers he is putting up.

But what numbers is he putting up? His rating is good but he completes passes for very little yardage which means he throws a bunch of dink passes that skews his rating for the better.

Paintrain
10-19-2009, 01:58 PM
Why are all the former Campbell-supporters suddenly against him now? His play now isn't any worse as it was last year or the year before when we were saying he wasn't the right QB for this team. His completion percentage has actually IMPROVED a little every year. So what's changed your minds about Campbell? Or is it just a case of not seeing the improvement you were hoping for?

I'm a Campbell supporter that hasn't turned on him but I am disappointed in what I've seen from him this year. I expected him to be much, much more productive when given the opportunities. I'm really starting to fear he's been Ramsey-fied. He's not playing QB, he's playing the role of a robot QB trying to be perfect and please his coach. He needs a major dose of 'f**k it' and just go out and play.

Paintrain
10-19-2009, 02:02 PM
But what numbers is he putting up? His rating is good but he completes passes for very little yardage which means he throws a bunch of dink passes that skews his rating for the better.

As I pointed out last week, he's got a higher YPA than Brady, McNabb, Cutler, Warner & Palmer. Seriously, it's sad how misinformed his detractors are.

irish
10-19-2009, 02:08 PM
As I pointed out last week, he's got a higher YPA than Brady, McNabb, Cutler, Warner & Palmer. Seriously, it's sad how misinformed his detractors are.

Those players you mention throw down the field and miss more often than a 2 yard dink passer. Those misses are zeros in calculating the average and those zeros bring down the average. Like others have said, the numbers dont tell the whole story because to insinuate that JC is even close to those QBs you mentioned is insane.

BigHairedAristocrat
10-19-2009, 02:10 PM
I'm a Campbell supporter that hasn't turned on him but I am disappointed in what I've seen from him this year. I expected him to be much, much more productive when given the opportunities. I'm really starting to fear he's been Ramsey-fied. He's not playing QB, he's playing the role of a robot QB trying to be perfect and please his coach. He needs a major dose of 'f**k it' and just go out and play.

I think, if we had stuck with the offense Gibbs drafted Campbell for, and we had given a top 10 offensive line, he could have become a really good QB in the NFL, perhaps even a franchise QB (although not an elite guy like Brady or Manning). However, those weren't the cards he was dealt. At the point Cerrato decided to hire Jim Zorn as head coach, it ruined Campbells chances of having becoming a franchise QB. Campbell was a square peg. the WCO is his round hole. It NEVER had a good chance of working. I don't know why so many people put faith in it.

Paintrain
10-19-2009, 02:16 PM
Those players you mention throw down the field and miss more often than a 2 yard dink passer. Those misses are zeros in calculating the average and those zeros bring down the average. Like others have said, the numbers dont tell the whole story because to insinuate that JC is even close to those QBs you mentioned is insane.

So the deep passes Campbell missed on the past few weeks didn't count in his average? Completion percentage would be highly driven by 2 yard dink passes, yards per attempt would be adversely affected by a majority of those.

I didn't compare him to any of those QB, simply pointed out the gaping flaw in your simplistic and inaccurate criticism.

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