Campbell's numbers dont lie


Paintrain
10-04-2009, 11:25 PM
Right so I'm saying that he isn't good. Look, if snyderatto wanted to get cutler (better than campbell, thus far) and Sanchez (rookie with worse receivers than campbell, and better record than campbell) and Denver didn't want Campbell, theres obviously something that the NFL see's in Campbell that all you campbell supporters don't. After watching the first 4 games I can say I've seen enough of Campbell to say that he doesn't fit this offense/ isnt as far ahead as we thought he'd be considering this is the first time he's played in the same offense for more than one year since highschool

Again, there's a simple answer. Don't watch again until next season, maybe we'll have another QB then. Until that point, Campbell is our QB so either learn to deal with it or don't but please spare us your 5 cent analysis after every game.

12thMan
10-04-2009, 11:32 PM
I'll take a recent elite defensive player with a superbowl rings opinion over most others any day of the week.

I don't see how you can actually watch Cutler and Campbell play and think theyre equal. Theyre most certainly not. And Josh McDaniels, a guy who coached the best QB in the league, a guy who knows more about QBs than anyone here wanted Kyle Orton over Jason Campbell. If that's not damning for Campbell, then I dont know what is.

As to Sanchez, the Jets have far less talent on Offense than we do. That, combined with the fact that he's a rookie, makes his performance that more impressive. I'm impressed when i watch him and I respect Trent Diflers opinion on QBs and he's very high on Sanchez. In 5 years, or whenever Manning and Brady retire, Sanchez will be one of the top 3 QBs in the league. No, we were not in a position to draft him, but we should have tried harder to put ourselves in a position to be. Now we're gonna be stuck drafting one of the overrated QBs in the 2010 draft. On the bright side, atleast whoever we hire to replace Zorn will get to pick his own QB.

I don't get your fascination with Rodney Harrison. The guy has been an NFL analyst all of four weeks and now he's suddenley the Jason Campbell expert? If Super Bowl rings are the new standard for valuing one's opinion, then I'm sure there are a few people out there with Super Bowl rings that think very highly of Jason Campbell. In fact, a guy name Joe Gibbs who has three of them comes to mind. But I digress.

You're entitled to your critique of Jason Campbell. Is he one of the top tier QBs in the league right now, probably not. But the quarterbacks that are have a strong supporting cast from top to bottom, my friend. I submit that Jason Campbell is doing much more with less.

And for all the Campbell haters calling for Todd Collins to come in, you need your head checked if you don't think Collins gets sacked at least four or five times today.

Ruhskins
10-04-2009, 11:41 PM
I don't get your fascination with Rodney Harrison. The guy has been an NFL analyst all of four weeks and now he's suddenley the Jason Campbell expert? If Super Bowl rings are the new standard for valuing one's opinion, then I'm sure there are a few people out there with Super Bowl rings that think very highly of Jason Campbell. In fact, a guy name Joe Gibbs who has three of them comes to mind. But I digress.

You're entitled to your critique of Jason ampbell. Is he one of the top tier QBs in the league right now, probably not. But the quarterbacks that are have a strong supporting cast from top to bottom, my friend. I submit that Jason Campbell is doing much more with less.

And for all the Campbell haters calling for Todd Collins to come in, you need your head checked if you don't think Collins gets sacked at least four or five times today.

It's funny how people say "well Denver didn't want Campbell and took Orton"...well newsflash, they didn't want Cutler either. It's obvious that Darth Hoody Jr. wanted his own QB, and talent hasn't much to do with it, otherwise he would have kept Cutler.

I don't know why these JC haters think some of us are arguing that Campbell is an elite QB. My beef with these haters is that...

- They think Campbell is the only problem in this team
- Want to blame him for losing a game (which he hasn't)
- Attack him when he does well
- And think everything he does well is luck.

I want for Campbell to be a game manager QB. Our team is supposed to have a good running game and defense that just needs an average QB to win. In the past couple of games, Campbell has been a bit above average, but our "strengths" haven't been there, hence the two losses.

In this game, our running game was there in the second half and our defense stepped things up. Campbell almost lost this game by having those turnovers, but he threw two TDs. If he doesn't throw those two TDs, he loses the game for us and the haters get their argument win. He didn't lose the game, so the haters get a disappointment and now must wait another week until their dream of the Jason Campbell breakdown becomes a reality.

CultBrennan59
10-04-2009, 11:46 PM
No, I'm still gonna watch us lose, just so I can go on these threads and hear all this campbell supporters above my post not say anything on sundays when we're sucking against whatever bad team we're playing, throwing picks or staying on one receiver the whole time, or always finishing one yard shy of the first or missing open receivers. Plus I want us to get a good QB next year in the draft, simply because I can tell you all with confidence that JC won't be here next year nor will Zorn. Shannahan will draft Sam Bradford, Jevan snead, or tim tebow.

dmvskinzfan08
10-04-2009, 11:47 PM
Obviously the team will keep rolling with Campbell. That is fine. My point is that I've seen enough that I do not expect anything to change. I've also seen enough that I am going to stop knocking my head against a wall in these threads.

:frusty:

lol

Ruhskins
10-04-2009, 11:47 PM
No, I'm still gonna watch us lose, just so I can go on these threads and hear all this campbell supporters above my post not say anything on sundays when we're sucking against whatever bad team we're playing, throwing picks or staying on one receiver the whole time, or always finishing one yard shy of the first or missing open receivers. Plus I want us to get a good QB next year in the draft, simply because I can tell you all with confidence that JC won't be here next year nor will Zorn. Shannahan will draft Sam Bradford, Jevan snead, or tim tebow.

and root for the Cowboys....I mean might as well.

12thMan
10-04-2009, 11:53 PM
It's funny how people say "well Denver didn't want Campbell and took Orton"...well newsflash, they didn't want Cutler either. It's obvious that Darth Hoody Jr. wanted his own QB, and talent hasn't much to do with it, otherwise he would have kept Cutler.

I don't know why these JC haters think some of us are arguing that Campbell is an elite QB. My beef with these haters is that...

- They think Campbell is the only problem in this team
- Want to blame him for losing a game (which he hasn't)
- Attack him when he does well
- And think everything he does well is luck.

I want for Campbell to be just an average or above average QB. Our team is supposed to have a good running game and defense that just needs an average QB to win. In the past couple of games, Campbell has been a bit above average, but our "strengths" haven't been there, hence the two losses.

In this game, our running game was there in the second half and our defense stepped things up. Campbell almost lost this game by having those turnovers, but he threw two TDs. If he doesn't throw those two TDs, he loses the game for us and the haters get their argument win. He didn't lose the game, so the haters get a disappointment and now must wait another week until their dream of the Jason Campbell breakdown becomes a reality.

It's call nitpicking, but don't tell Rodney Harrison that:)

dgack
10-04-2009, 11:57 PM
In this game, our running game was there in the second half and our defense stepped things up. Campbell almost lost this game by having those turnovers, but he threw two TDs.

Yeah, dude came back and overcame a bad half which is a lot easier said than done.

His QB rating in the 3rd quarter was 157.2 (which is almost perfect). That's a good sign after a half of play where his rating was an unbelievably bad 13.8.

Ruhskins
10-05-2009, 12:02 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen, your fan of the year...

No, I'm still gonna watch us lose

I just want us to do either really good or really bad

he still sucks, and we could/should have lost this game

CultBrennan59
10-05-2009, 12:05 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen, your fan of the year...

hahahaha...let's remember you saying this at the bye week, and we'll see how great our QB is and how our coach is doing, OK?

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