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wilsowilso 10-04-2009, 06:23 PM Let him throw some interceptions!
It's a good thing they weren't protecting him so much today. Let him make some mistakes and stop trying to turn him into a robot.
Let the guy air it out. Go for broke. I don't care if he throws twenty more picks this year. He can shrug that off.
It's those two beautiful td passes that will make him grow the most.
tryfuhl 10-04-2009, 06:24 PM ROTFL. You probably are right. The 10 plays they had for him have all been used...lol. I know we are joking but does Zorn know that teams scout us and study film too? They will be like I saw this play is coming. Moss is going to get the ball on this play. Cooley is going to get it on this play..lmao
what's bad is that we're laughing but we're NOT joking :(
dmvskinzfan08 10-04-2009, 06:27 PM Let him throw some interceptions!
It's a good thing they weren't protecting him so much today. Let him make some mistakes and stop trying to turn him into a robot.
Let the guy air it out. Go for broke. I don't care if he throws twenty more picks this year. He can shrug that off.
It's those two beautiful td passes that will make him grow the most.
You are right. Gibbs had JC so shook he couldn't develop. That's why he is making rookie mistakes now. Like Manning's first year he threw something like 26td - 28 ints. But look at him now. He learned from his mistakes..
Hmmm that's a interesting term "Learning from your mistakes"
But also Gibbs knows how overly-critical us as Redskins fans are. So maybe he was bring the kid along slowly. But TOO SLOW.
We have had him dumping the ball of since he started. So what has he learned. If we had let him loose. He would be like I can't do this last time I threw a interception because I read the defense wrong. Click. But you can't learn anything from throwing screen plays all game. Like he used to. They are opening up now. But only thing is Zorn is trying to play QB instead of coach and not letting JC make his own mistakes. This game might have been actually a goof things for JC.
GTripp0012 10-04-2009, 06:34 PM I haven't watched Claussen play. That is frustrated speculation. But someone other than Jason Campbell will be QB next year. I know you really like the guy, but he is not getting a clear picture back there and I do not think he has all year. Holds the ball too long, no timing or rhythm in his game. You can blame Zorn for it if you like, I am fine with that explanation, but he is not the future at QB for this franchise. The numbers today just support what has been a problem all year. And this is coming from someone who was a big time Campbell fan for a long time.Well, I have legitimate fears at this point that the Redskins messed up his development. And if that's indeed the case, then you're absolutely right, we can't have that back.
But at this point, it's way too early to just conclude that you're right. 5 TD's vs. 5 INTs to this point, and if that becomes 11:5 in the next two games, then no one remembers this one. If it becomes 6:8, then you have a problem at the quarterback position.
dmvskinzfan08 10-04-2009, 06:44 PM Well, I have legitimate fears at this point that the Redskins messed up his development. And if that's indeed the case, then you're absolutely right, we can't have that back.
But at this point, it's way too early to just conclude that you're right. 5 TD's vs. 5 INTs to this point, and if that becomes 11:5 in the next two games, then no one remembers this one. If it becomes 6:8, then you have a problem at the quarterback position.
I think we did jack JC up. Between the different systems. Him not having reliable receivers or a o-line. This year no consistent run game. Joe Gibbs babying him. Joe Gibbs was stuck in a hard place though. We even ran him out of town. So I think let's keep JC as a game manager instead of lettign him sling it like Denver did with Cutler. The only way you learn is from mistakes and Gibbs protected Campbell too much. That's why he sometimes make rookie mistakes. I thin this situation would have been horrible for any QB to be honest. Nothing has been consitent or QB friendly here. I just hope JC plearns from his mistakes. But if all else fail we should keep him as a backup QB since we have a uncapped season next year..that is if his agent isn't stupid and try to ask for more than what he is worth. I truly dont see may options for free agent/college QBs out there though.
Dirtbag59 10-04-2009, 06:50 PM Campbell played pretty terribly today, no question. What do you think a 39 year old career backup brings to the table? There's a reason he's been a backup for 10+ years. Campbell gives us the best chance to win. Period. You're assuming that coaches are never wrong. In theory though Collins would bring a quicker release and wouldn't struggle as much when it comes to reading defenses. Again only theory but if you were to put Collins in that would be why. You're essentially giving up the big arm in hopes that you're putting in a QB that will be better able to dissect the defense.
poopoobigelow 10-04-2009, 06:59 PM calling for todd collins to start is silly... this guy was a career saunders-system backup for a reason... and even if he somehow was a better option than jc, he would not have helped this team in the first half in the slightest... when you constantly run the ball on first and second down with little success and are, as a result, putting your qb in third and long sutiuations, he will often be unsuccessful, be he drew brees or a qb with a great offensive line...
the interceptions weren't good, but they were a result of jc trying to make plays, something we were screaming for him to do... and i'm glad he was feeling bold, that pass to moss was perfect... i'll take two pics for a 60-yard touchdown...
we can all agree that campbell will never be peyton manning... but, he's our qb this whole season whether you like it or not... so, constantly dumping on him after after every play/game isn't going to get you anywhere... relax and support him for 12 more games... he won't be our qb next year, regardless...
44Deezel 10-04-2009, 07:02 PM I haven't watched Claussen play. That is frustrated speculation. But someone other than Jason Campbell will be QB next year. I know you really like the guy, but he is not getting a clear picture back there and I do not think he has all year. Holds the ball too long, no timing or rhythm in his game. You can blame Zorn for it if you like, I am fine with that explanation, but he is not the future at QB for this franchise. The numbers today just support what has been a problem all year. And this is coming from someone who was a big time Campbell fan for a long time.
He is what he is. I don't blame the INT on the pass to Kelly on him, and was stoked that he finally threw that pass and actually put in a place that the receiver at least had a chance to make a play.
But everything else is on him. I was sitting in a lower level suite behind the end zone and you could see guys open downfield all day. The pass to Cooley that got broken up at the 5 was throw WAY TOO LATE. Cooley was wide open for about 10 yards, but Campbell threw it too late and with too much air under it. Very frustrating to watch him miss play after play. I agree that he won't be our starter next year or anyone's for that matter.
44Deezel 10-04-2009, 07:11 PM Wow, Chicago thumped the Lions today and put up 48 in the process. So they really are shitty.
44Deezel 10-04-2009, 07:13 PM JC was aweful today...but he is the type of QB who will have days like this. He will never be a star in this league, but we dont need him to be if Oline would play half-decent and we a group of recievers who didnt play like a bunch of colleges chumps. Our recieving corp has been a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE disappointment so far this year. We dont have a second receiver ever on the field. Thank god for Cooley.
Seriously. Good receivers are the key. Just look at the Pats when they won 3 Super Bowls and the Titans last year. Their Hall of Fame receivers really carried them.
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