Campbell's numbers dont lie


DynamiteRave
09-28-2009, 08:48 PM
I'm just being real bro, pick a team then. You don't see me putting a saints avatar on mine and I used to live there

First off.. Bro. You might not wanna assume everyone here is male, considering I'm not.

Nothing's wrong for having love for a team where you used to live. That doesn't make you any less of a fan of the current team you like.

Speaking of non-males... You know who I miss. Hess. lol you old timers know who I'm talking about.

BaltimoreSkins
09-28-2009, 08:48 PM
I think that Jason Reid points out that Campbell almost has to play perfect to keep us in games. I agree. Our running game has been noticeably absent and our defense has struggled to keep teams off the field.

JWsleep
09-28-2009, 08:50 PM
Silly debate right now. He's not Brady, but it seems clear that he's not the root of our problems right now. He can certainly be better, but I would say the trend is positive on JC--he's gotten better, even if he's not lighting up the scoreboard.

THings that are more serious, IMO:

1. Where the fuck is our running game????
2. Why can't our D get off the field--that supposed to be our strength. ToP was brutal yesterday
3. D can't generate TOs
4. Play calling.
5. Brutal game-losing penalities
6. Consistent execution on EVERY play, JC included.

He's our best QB at present. Fix these other issues, and we'll win some games.

tryfuhl
09-28-2009, 08:56 PM
The best QBs make big plays.

DynamiteRave
09-28-2009, 08:57 PM
The best QBs make big plays.

In defense of JC, I gotta admit the best QBs tend to have big playmakers on their team.

tryfuhl
09-28-2009, 08:59 PM
In defense of JC, I gotta admit the best QBs tend to have big playmakers on their team.
Brees has Shockey (not really a big play guy) and Colston and that's about it. I like Campbell to an extent but he doesn't feel comfortable putting the ball up to the receiver to catch. Maybe that's his style, maybe that's Zorn in his ear, or maybe he's used to WR's getting 10 yards open in college and being able to hit them late in the play.. I really don't know.

DynamiteRave
09-28-2009, 09:01 PM
Brees has Shockey (not really a big play guy) and Colston and that's about it. I like Campbell to an extent but he doesn't feel comfortable putting the ball up to the receiver to catch. Maybe that's his style, maybe that's Zorn in his ear, or maybe he's used to WR's getting 10 yards open in college and being able to hit them late in the play.. I really don't know.

I get you. I'm on the fence with JC as well. I think Shockey used to be a big play guy though. I haven't seen him in action much anymore since going to the Saints. But Shockey was always a dude who could make something out of nothing. At least when he was with the Giants. But yeah, I'm a big fence sitter with JC, I wanna think the guy has it in him to pull out the big guns but I'm not so sure.

tryfuhl
09-28-2009, 09:03 PM
I get you. I'm on the fence with JC as well. I think Shockey used to be a big play guy though. I haven't seen him in action much anymore since going to the Saints. But Shockey was always a dude who could make something out of nothing. At least when he was with the Giants. But yeah, I'm a big fence sitter with JC, I wanna think the guy has it in him to pull out the big guns but I'm not so sure.
I think that if he had more of a dropback system and a little less scheme he'd be better off, I hear ya "bro" ;)

Patfisher37
09-28-2009, 09:05 PM
We have playmakers my friend. We probably have the best Tight End in the league, we have an explosive Wide Receiver who can still run, we have a decent slot receiver who can't return a punt for a yard but can still catch the ball and we have, decent running backs.

What more do you need, the guy just doesn't have what it takes to be a winner. How many years of mediocrity can we take from the QB position, I bet Collins can get in there and at least provide a more consistent performance.

Did you hear Cooley today. They have not consistency on Offense! That on the QB!

He's not bad, but this game is a game of momentum and mental toughness and if you can't give your team the confidence to make some tough throws and stretch the field, then nobody is going to believe in you.

This teams problems are from the shoulder pads up!

Beemnseven
09-28-2009, 09:08 PM
What are the stats on 4th quarter comebacks for most QBs. Ifyou said 4th quarter it might have been acceptable. But the comebacks kind of made yoru arguement less relevant. Only because only the great ones do that. Like Favre Manning and Brady. Only a hand full are probably successful. Even these Qbs had to take some lumps to get where they are. There is no learning curve in Skins Nation and most people are unrealistic or impatient in their expectations. Brady was in the same system fo ryeas before he started. Manning was horrible his first year and okay the second year as a starter. it took years for him to win a Superbowl. His system remained intact also. Favre. If Favre was here as a young player he would never have reached his potential. He would have been ran out of town.

So all I ask is be realistic and be patient. Mannings and Brady's dont come around that often. Both Flacco and Ryan are a product of a system that is QB friendly as far as their defenses and running games go. You can also say this for the coveted Sanchez. He is not putting up big numbers. he is maintaining the game and has a very good offense.

Barf.

Impatient? In this day and age, patience is for excuse-makers.

Look at our "core" guys -- Samuels, Portis, Moss, Cooley, Randle El, Rabach, Randy Thomas, Campbell, Betts, Sellers, Daniels, McIntosh, Rogers, Griffin, Carter -- these are all guys who have been here going back to the dreadful 2006 season. Some even before that. Year after year it's nothing but ordinary with these players. Ordinary play, ordinary results -- but in many cases, extraordinary salaries.

Four seasons is about as long as anyone should need to know what you have and what you don't have. With this ownership structure, we're at the ten year mark. Ten years with three winning seasons. Just how patient are Redskins fans supposed to be?

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