Campbell's numbers dont lie


GTripp0012
10-02-2009, 03:48 PM
And honestly, there's one guy who has jumped Campbell in my opinion based on evidence from the month of September and that's Joe Flacco.

But there's 3 or 4 players I think Campbell has jumped in the hierarchy of NFL QBs.

Matt Hasselbeck
Kurt Warner
Jay Cutler
Chad Pennington

Some of that's due to injury and age decline, but those factors matter as well.

dmvskinzfan08
10-02-2009, 03:49 PM
You know, you are never as good or as bad as stats and records may indicate, BUT:

2009 NFL Leaders and Leaderboards | Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2009/leaders.htm)

After 3 games, Jason is in the top ten in passes completed (4th), passes attempted (10th), passing yards (9th), passer rating (9th), passing yards per game (9th) and yards per pass attempt (9th).

I'm sorry, but if there were any other name besides "Campbell, J." in this position, guys would be slathering at the bit to try and sign this dude for next season.

Will some of those stats come down? Sure. But my guess is they're going to be pretty good at year end and snipers looking for the magic bullet to fix this team should be careful what they wish for.

Fans of this team have gotten the front office and players we deserve.

I totally agree. All he has to do is improve in the redzone and that is the product of coaching also drop passes, bad play calls, fumbles, etc.

I think we will be worse off if we let him go. At the least we need to keep him for security purposes. Because I dont see anyone out there who is a sure shot. So be careful what you ask for. If we start winning I wonder what people will say then.

acidsmurfman
10-02-2009, 03:53 PM
the panthers would love to have Jason Campbell right now

dgack
10-02-2009, 03:54 PM
If we start winning I wonder what people will say then.

* "Sure, but [opponent] sucks!"
* It's better playcalling, Campbell didn't do anything special
* It's the defense
* Portis found his step again
* The receivers are bailing out Campbell
* Luck
* He's still not a leader (whatever that means)
* etc

KLHJ2
10-02-2009, 03:59 PM
To be honest as much as I have been an advocate of Colt to get a shot, I believe that Jason is the best QB on our roster, and better than most QB's on most rosters. Suprisingly, of all of the rookies and verteran QB's that may become available for us to draft or pick up this offseason, I feel that Campbell would give us the best chance to win over the next several years. Especially if we stick with the WCO because of the amount of time it takes to learn and perfect the system.

Honestly, I want to keep the WCO. I want to keep Campbell and even Zorn. If we keep changing the offense every 2 years, then it is never going to get any better. For once I want to see them stick with something and see it through long enough to actually reap the rewards. If it can work in Philly with McNabb, then it can work in Washington with Campbell. I think that Campbell is on his way to being better than McNabb, the numbers are starting to show. The only thing that has to improve now is TD passess and Wins.

GTripp0012
10-02-2009, 04:07 PM
To be honest as much as I have been an advocate of Colt to get a shot, I believe that Jason is the best QB on our roster, and better than most QB's on most rosters. Suprisingly, of all of the rookies and verteran QB's that may become available for us to draft or pick up this offseason, I feel that Campbell would give us the best chance to win over the next several years. Especially if we stick with the WCO because of the amount of time it takes to learn and perfect the system.

Honestly, I want to keep the WCO. I want to keep Campbell and even Zorn. If we keep changing the offense every 2 years, then it is never going to get any better. For once I want to see them stick with something and see it through long enough to actually reap the rewards. If it can work in Philly with McNabb, then it can work in Washington with Campbell. I think that Campbell is on his way to being better than McNabb, the numbers are starting to show. The only thing that has to improve now is TD passess and Wins.I would actually be pretty surprised if, when McNabb returns from injury, if he's more effective than Campbell is. The Eagles have OL troubles as well, and while I'd take their receivers over ours in a vacuum, I've long thought Campbell to be the more accurate passer of the two.

I think Campbell will get our receivers more chances than McNabb will get their receivers. And then, we'll see what our offense is really made of over the next 4 games or so.

SBXVII
10-02-2009, 04:19 PM
One bloggers interesting take:

The failure of Jason Campbell in pictures (Lions game) - EXTREMESKINS.com (http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=301745)

dgack
10-02-2009, 04:20 PM
Just for shits and giggles, I just spent 15 minutes googling and found threads on Bucs, Bills, Raiders, Browns, Rams, and Panthers forums discussing the possibility of getting Campbell next year. Unsurprisingly, most of the people in the discussion think Soup is a solid if unspectacular QB who works his ass off, isn't a diva, and doesn't make a ton of mistakes.

Perhaps more importantly, they almost all believe he's a steal who is undervalued because of where he plays and the constant chaos here.

dgack
10-02-2009, 04:30 PM
One bloggers interesting take:

The failure of Jason Campbell in pictures (Lions game) - EXTREMESKINS.com (http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=301745)


I wish those caps were in HD so I could tell who all the receivers and defenders were, but at least that guy illustrated his points.

I don't know enough about progressions or playcalling to know if those examples are entirely on Jason or not, but I will say this:

-- Regardless of what we think of Zorn as a playcaller or head coach, his coaching expertise was supposed to be as a QB coach, right?

I mean, working with Zorn for almost two years, I would expect that Jason is doing what Zorn has drilled him to do.

Paintrain
10-02-2009, 04:43 PM
One bloggers interesting take:

The failure of Jason Campbell in pictures (Lions game) - EXTREMESKINS.com (http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=301745)

And if you select 2-3 plays from any NFL QB's game you will see open receivers, missed reads and points left on the field. Not to call the poster a cherry picker, but he had an overall point he wanted to make and found some isolated video to support him. Also, without seeing the coaches tape it's impossible to accurately assess plays. From a TV camera angle you can't see what's happening in the pocket at the same time as seeing down the field accurately.

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