Campbell's numbers dont lie


Green1
10-02-2009, 11:03 AM
People still dont realize that this is only campbell's 4th year in the league. Three different offenses Zorn, Saunders, Gibbs. The most successful Qbs have been in the same offense their whole career. Fans here need to stop acting like Synder and have patience with a good QB.

MonkFan4Life
10-02-2009, 11:21 AM
Really.

We are not talking about Mark Brunell. Brad Johnson is old that's all. But I think he did win a Superbowl after he left us. Or was that in my dreams? So you are blaming JC for us not getting Pass Interference calls? Huh? Don't know about deep ball accuracy. He hasn't thrown that many. That is something he can work on if it is an issue. Umm. So I guess he's too dumb to call audibles? When he has called the plays whether it is garbage time or not he scored. If he was so horrible he wouldn't even be able to do that.

Umm the West Coast offense is mainly intermediate throws. Your right. He puts the ball on the numbers with velocity instead of throwing to a spot or area. I woudn't blame him because our WRs keep dropping the ball. If he throws it somewhere they can catch it and he makes a completion then it really doesn't matter to me. Perfect example of throwing to an area Delhomme. He is responsible for his INTs for the most part. But some of them are because he is throwing to an area and the defense is there instead of the WR. You really want to do that with Thomas or Kelly? LOL. Even saying that Delhomme has been horrible. Maybe we should pick him up? Maybe you would be happy with a guy that throws to an area instead of completing passes. Our young receivers are not precise route runners at this point so it would be a disaster if that happened.

But you are right. He is absoultey horrible. He can't learn from his mistakes He can't grow as a QB. He is the worst QB in the NFL. He holds the ball too long. He isn't smart. He has a slow wind up release.. [end sarcasm]

Did I forget anything else? This is getting so old..

I'm making a point. So basically you're satisfied with him playing one way for 3 1/2 quarters and then a completely different way in the last 1/2. Really ? You are right that the West Coast offense is a lot of intermediate throws by why is it that Philly's West Coast has so many deep routes ? Why is it that there are always receiviers for this offense that run deep routes but the ball is never thrown to them ? Why is it that so many of the fade routes end up out of bounds ? Is that the receiviers are running the wrong route or that the ball is thrown to the wrong area ? I didn't say that Campbell was too dumb to call audibles but the fact that he doesn't. But why should I look for him to call an audible when he doesn't even want to call his own protections ? He does call an audible here or there. But why is it that teams will consistently keep and 8th or 9th man in the box ? The QB doesn't force them to stay back. That's why. I said that Campbell throws to an area and not to a spot which was a problem and you used Delhomme as an example to agree with me ? Come on now, don't twist up my words.

Be as sarcastic as you want but that's all you have is to try and drop a zinger. You know for yourself that in this league you don't have 6 years to become a good QB. I guess he deserves it because he's a good guy ? I don't know what it is that you have seen that gives you all this confidence in this guy. You're right that it is getting old, that's why I feel like he needs to go. You think he should stay I don't. But I'll ask you to do this, make a bet with one of your friends that Jason Campbell will throw 20 touchdowns by the time that the season is over. Your 50 to their 100 and see how you feel then. See if you are as faithful in him as you are now.

Trample the Elderly
10-02-2009, 11:37 AM
Cocaine doesn't lie either. That's doesn't mean it isn't expensive and doesn't suck the life out of you.

Newsflash! Soup, Zorn, the coaches, and the whole damn team are not the problem. It is the great Satan himself, Danny Boy.

redsk1
10-02-2009, 11:48 AM
JC has improved this year vs last. That's good. We're 1-2 though. Realistically to be successful JC needs a complete team around him. Brees, TB, PM, Rivers...they can hide some team defiencies just by putting points on the board.

Time will tell. JC is pretty accurate for the most part. He has trouble w/ the fade route and sometimes the long throws. His "football" awareness is much better than a couple years ago. Without a significant run game I'm afraid it's going to be a rough year in terms of W's and L's. JC has got to step up and put the ball in the endzone.

Oh yeah, w/ 15 seconds left, needing a touchdown, on the wrong side of the 50 yardline, no timeouts...you can't throw down the middle of the field, JC. You've been around too long, you should know this. Good thing it was overthrown or time would have expired. We lost anyway, but come on. You throw to the edges or deep.

MTK
10-02-2009, 12:05 PM
JC was just running the play that was called, blame the horrible hook and ladder call on Zorn.

SC Skins Fan
10-02-2009, 12:06 PM
JC was just running the play that was called, blame the horrible hook and ladder call on Zorn.

I think he was referring to the play before that one.

warriorzpath
10-02-2009, 12:09 PM
Bottomline to everything is - this team is Campbell's team (coming from his own words). Who do you hold accountable for the redskins performances given that Campbell has said he was taking responsibility for the redskins?

Let me know if I was reading into it more than I necessarily need to. When someone says something as strongly as this - to take responsibility for something as big as this, then I sit up and take notice - and I hold him to it.

The redskins are his team, but he is not held accountable. I just don't get it.

warriorzpath
10-02-2009, 12:22 PM
... and I just read the Blache article for taking on blame. That's what Manning-up is - taking responsibility. That's what you call what a man is. Before reading this, I thought Blache was just cruising out this season and was planning to retire at the end of it, but now I know different. This guy has nothing but respect from me.

And to me this is what being a man is all about - not about how physically big you are.

redsk1
10-02-2009, 12:32 PM
I think he was referring to the play before that one.

Yeah, i was. The game would have been over if it was caught. There was no hook and ladder on that one. Just a dumb play.

MTK
10-02-2009, 12:40 PM
^^ yeah I hear ya but just the fact we were in that position to begin with kinda tells the story

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