Campbell's numbers dont lie

Really now ? So what you are saying is that Mark Sanchez learning his offense and running practices 2 weeks after being drafted was because of everyone around him ? If you put Mark Brunell in the game instead of Drew Brees then the Saints don't look like they do with Brees. When Brad Johnson went in for Dallas last year they looked like a completely different team. The fact is that Jason does nothing to help this team win. His stats look good at the end of the game but when was the last time you saw a Pass Inteference called on the defense while we have the ball ? You don't. Then guys deep ball accuracy is horrible but that is supposed to be his best throw. He doesn't throw the ball to a spot before the receiver breaks because he has to see the numbers before he throws it. How come he hardly ever calls audibles ? It's because the coaches tell him not to right ? Even when he is supposedly effective during the 2 min drill, when he gets to call his own plays does he ever beat a DB by throwing the ball on the money to a receiver ? No, they are all mid level throws that the receivers can rack up YAC because the D is in a prevent. His stats are padded. Point Blank.
Really.

We are not talking about Mark Brunell. Brad Johnson is old that's all. But I think he did win a Superbowl after he left us. Or was that in my dreams? So you are blaming JC for us not getting Pass Interference calls? Huh? Don't know about deep ball accuracy. He hasn't thrown that many. That is something he can work on if it is an issue. Umm. So I guess he's too dumb to call audibles? When he has called the plays whether it is garbage time or not he scored. If he was so horrible he wouldn't even be able to do that.

Umm the West Coast offense is mainly intermediate throws. Your right. He puts the ball on the numbers with velocity instead of throwing to a spot or area. I woudn't blame him because our WRs keep dropping the ball. If he throws it somewhere they can catch it and he makes a completion then it really doesn't matter to me. Perfect example of throwing to an area Delhomme. He is responsible for his INTs for the most part. But some of them are because he is throwing to an area and the defense is there instead of the WR. You really want to do that with Thomas or Kelly? LOL. Even saying that Delhomme has been horrible. Maybe we should pick him up? Maybe you would be happy with a guy that throws to an area instead of completing passes. Our young receivers are not precise route runners at this point so it would be a disaster if that happened.

But you are right. He is absoultey horrible. He can't learn from his mistakes He can't grow as a QB. He is the worst QB in the NFL. He holds the ball too long. He isn't smart. He has a slow wind up release.. [end sarcasm]

Did I forget anything else? This is getting so old..

It's easy to sit on the sideline and say this and that? Umm, hello? Dumbass says what? THAT IS ALL WE DO AROUND HERE! And who the hell are you to tell people to support Campbell or shut up. Kiss my ass. Are we all supposed to sit around here and blow smoke up his ass? How gay would that be? He's the QB for a team that hasn't scored 30 points in 19 games, and he's the only guy on Offense that touches the ball on every play. Hell, 20 points would be an Offensive break-out at this point. He may not be THE problem, but he ain't the solution either.

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as fas as the kiss my ass comment. no thanks. Its kinda hard to anyway when you have your head so far up there. whining and bitching like a lil girl..how gay would that be? I think our offensive problems started way before campbell was starting. we were so dynamic on offense when Brunell was here weren't we. Im more like a smart ass. your the dumbass sir.

How many of those yards and completions were done during prevent defense, need to see him do it during a reg. defense and GET US IN THE ENDZONE. Whew, this stuff is killing me. JC is still lost and making mistakes during critical times. His recievers shouldn't have to dive for the first down marker. Scared, scared young man, to afraid of throwing the ball and letting the cievers make the catch at the proper time, he always dumps off to early.

... Someone said he has yet to hit someone in stride. But then he turns around and says he hits moss is stride for a touchdown.

I'm sorry I wasn't clear. I stated that I have almost never seen him hit Moss in stride. In fact, I have almost never seen him hit a receiver running downfield in stride. Then I pointed out that the only time Moss did get it in stride he was able to take it for a TD. (I admit, Moss wasn't running downfield.) It just begs the question what would happen to TD production by the wide receivers if they were hit in stride (by JC, my late grandmother, or someone else.)

It's easy to sit on the sideline and say this and that? Umm, hello? Dumbass says what? THAT IS ALL WE DO AROUND HERE! And who the hell are you to tell people to support Campbell or shut up. Kiss my ass. Are we all supposed to sit around here and blow smoke up his ass? How gay would that be? He's the QB for a team that hasn't scored 30 points in 19 games, and he's the only guy on Offense that touches the ball on every play. Hell, 20 points would be an Offensive break-out at this point. He may not be THE problem, but he ain't the solution either.

Is there really any need for all that? I'm no mod, but I'm sure you could've made your point and left out the name-calling. :spank:

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as fas as the kiss my ass comment. no thanks. Its kinda hard to anyway when you have your head so far up there. whining and bitching like a lil girl..how gay would that be? I think our offensive problems started way before campbell was starting. we were so dynamic on offense when Brunell was here weren't we. Im more like a smart ass. your the dumbass sir.
he shouldn't have done that but what is this.. the 3rd time you've replied to it?

it's the internet, take it a bit less seriously

he shouldn't have done that but what is this.. the 3rd time you've replied to it?

it's the internet, take it a bit less seriously

You might need to direct that at him buddy. One was to point out the mods who are always on me for responding to people when they call me out. They didn't respond all day. Then I had to give my 2 cents on the actual football comment he made and then I had to insult him back :D. But I will ignore him from now on.

Thanks for the advice dude!!!

For every Trent Dilfer Scenario (No offense, great D), there is a Kurt Warner (No Defense, great O), especially in this day and age. For Christ's sake, Elway almost did it multiple times with the Orange Broncos.

My philosophy is that neither the defense nor the offense can win you a championship outright. They need the support of each other. We have an above average defense and an under average offense. The least we can do if we aren't scoring points is to dominate time of possession. In our two losses we haven't in our one win we have.

The least JC and the offense could do is get a few first downs CONSISTENTLY through the game. What loses games are 3 and outs and such. It destroys the offenses confidence while at the same time sucking the energy out of the defense towards the ends of games. That is why JC is as integral to the D's performance in close games as he is to the O's. Next time he is moving the ball well in against a prevent D when we are behind, just remember that if our D gives up a score or can't stop their O on the next possession, it's not all their fault. At some point in that game JC and the O probably let us down by not holding on the ball for a while.Warner though, was the quarterback of a 9-7 team, and his defense performed (on the average) better than the Redskins defense (on the small sample average) has this year. Could we be a 9-7 team behind Campbell, good special teams, and nothing else? Absolutely. Is that a ticket to the super bowl? No more than the Cardinals were last year when they were being blown out by the Patriots. In the NFC East, that gets you to the playoffs only about half the time.

Warner though, was the quarterback of a 9-7 team, and his defense performed (on the average) better than the Redskins defense (on the small sample average) has this year. Could we be a 9-7 team behind Campbell, good special teams, and nothing else? Absolutely. Is that a ticket to the super bowl? No more than the Cardinals were last year when they were being blown out by the Patriots. In the NFC East, that gets you to the playoffs only about half the time.

I totally agree. If we can get our running game going and our D to get better on 3rd down. We will be much improved. But time will only tell.

Yeah and the thing about the Arizona is they stepped up on defense during the playoff stretch and Fitz was on FIRE!!

oh c/mon tripp. i know you're smarter than that silly ass comment you just made. lol.But I mean, how often does a team score 30+ without the benefit of a defensive touchdown (or special teams). Great offenses: pretty often. Above average offenses: not so much. Even if the defensive touchdown comes completely in garbage time, it's usually the difference between 27 and 34 points or something.

On one hand, the frequency at which we score 30+ points means nothing. We could employ the chuck and duck and score 33 points a week while losing games. On the other, teams that score that much that frequently usually get contributions from playmakers on all sides of the football.

With all due respect to Santana Moss' decisive TD in Detroit on a punt return, as long as you're hung up on points, start where the deficiency is most glaring.

And yeah, the offense scores at a below average rate no matter how far you break em down. But if the point is just how inept the team is at scoring, well, let's do that.