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dmvskinzfan08 10-01-2009, 01:51 AM Its funny. I am looking at the free agent QBs next year and I see nothing special. In the draft I see McCoy & Tebow. Don't know if Bradford's stock has dropped because of injury or not. There may be some sleepers but with our fans it would pretty much have to be a sure shot or we will run the next QB out of town also. Then we have Colt on IR. Those are pretty much our choices. Unless we make some type of trade. Which would have to be for picks and that would leave us with less picks to get a quality OL. We really aren't in a good posiiton to make a move for a QB but anything is possible. If Bradford plays well the rest of the season I think he would be the best option for an NFL ready QB. We will see starting Saturday against Miami. So I think our best bet now is to hope Campbell pans out. If he does he still might be gone because of the front office antics this offseason and the lack of support he receives from the fans. Its also depends on who our coach is next year. Another option is Vick. Ronnie Brown will be a free agent next year. That would be a good tandem to pick up. Brown is 27 though. So he would only help us for a few years. You also have Jerrious Norwoord. I just think FO has made the situation kind of sticky. The best bet is to root for JC and hope Zorn makes him into a formidable QB by the end of the year. I think he is on his way. We jsut need to have a little more patience.
GTripp0012 10-01-2009, 02:02 AM OMG, our 30+ pts scoreless streak is almost as long as our defensive touchdownless streak. Who knew?
skins89moss 10-01-2009, 06:44 AM I'm getting tired of making the same points, but the main reason the Patriots don't look like the dominant team of previous seasons is because their defense is not nearly what it used to be. And Brees kicked ass in 2007, but the Saint went 7-9.
If the quarterback is the only player that matters, why are there 52 other guys on the roster? If it was as simple as picking the perfect quarterback, you wouldn't have head coaches putting in 90 hour weeks, or month long training camps to whip 90ish guys into shape to fill out 53 spots. Your oversimplification of the game of football is ridiculous to say the least.
Good responds Southpaw. Fans must remember that football is a team sport where 11 players have to be on the same page for plays to work. I player can kill a good play by either ( penality, missed assignment , bad pass , drop ball, and fumble). The Brett Farve game winning TD vs 49ers would not have happenend if his line did not block for him, or the WR catching the ball. So many things must go right for the play to be successful.
skins89moss 10-01-2009, 06:53 AM I'm sure the insanity of your post has already been picked apart, but the stats you mention don't really mean much of anything. You're talking fantasy football stats, not real stats. The if you've watched the games, the vast majority of JC's production has come when we are behind late in the game and opposing defenses are playing prevent.
Of the quarteracks you mention with lower QB ratings than Campbell, not a single sane person would take Campbell over any of them. Nothing Campbell has shown me this year changes my opinion of him - he's the best QB on our roster, but he holds on to the ball too long, makes poor decions, can't get it done when it counts, and doesn't have the "it" factor you need in a franchise QB.
I garauntee by the end of the season, you and everyone who has made excuses for Campbell over the past several years will be regretting that we werent able to land Cutler or Sanchez in the offseason. I said it before and I'll restate it now - both of those guys are better than any QBs that will be available in the draft in 2010. I love Orakpo, but he's never going to single-handedly lead this team to the playoffs, which is something Cutler and Sanchez will be doing for their respective teams for years to come.
You mean like the Great Trent Dilfer and Rex Grossman lead their teams ( Ravens/Bears) to the SuperBowl.:argue:
skins89moss 10-01-2009, 07:04 AM If I were Vinny then Cutler would be starting for the Redskins. 25 year old franchise QB's don't grow on trees. I am 38 years old and the Redskins have been looking for one my whole life.
I wish I were Vinny because then I could resign and save the Redskins.
You said yourself we have been looking for a franchise QB and they don't grow on trees. What makes you so sure if we get rid of JC that we can find one or even draft one. I do believe we had Trent Green at 1 time as our QB and we let him go. Do you remember that? Do you remember Brad Johnson who once played for us and we let him go so we could play Jeff George? You remember those QB's Celts32 Huh? Stop whining about our QB and focus on the the O-line and Defense not getting off the field.:spank:
skins89moss 10-01-2009, 07:12 AM Good point. We got JC for the rest of the year. If we want to talk about the future that's fine. If you know any free agent QBs or College Qbs that will be better then let's talk about that. But even then people are assuming that JC will be gone this season. He hasn't played that bad. Its only the third game. He can only get better. I think the running game is a QB's best friend once we get that going I guarantee all you haters that our offense wil thrive. Write it down. When we get our running game together, which we will, our whole offense will thrive. Its not JC fault that we are one dimensional. He does not control the o-line or rbs performances (or WRs for that matter). Someone said he has yet to hit someone in stride. But then he turns around and says he hits moss is stride for a touchdown. He misses open receivers. Its easy to sit on the sideline and say this and that. Things happen much quicker on the feel and no QB makes the right decisions 100% of the time. We have JC for the rest of the year. So please button your pie holes about ifs and buts. Support him or shut up. Because he is our QB. My belief is that he is going to be having a lot of people eating crow by the end of the season. We just need to get this running game going.
Support your QB. He is not Delhomme and even the Panthers still have faith in him. Fickle ass fans. I tell ya!!
Hey DMV, I bet if the Redskins make the palyoffs we would still have some Hatter ass fans complaining that JC needs to go.
skins89moss 10-01-2009, 07:15 AM OMG, our 30+ pts scoreless streak is almost as long as our defensive touchdownless streak. Who knew?
Nice GTripp:food-smil
44Deezel 10-01-2009, 08:40 AM Good point. We got JC for the rest of the year. If we want to talk about the future that's fine. If you know any free agent QBs or College Qbs that will be better then let's talk about that. But even then people are assuming that JC will be gone this season. He hasn't played that bad. Its only the third game. He can only get better. I think the running game is a QB's best friend once we get that going I guarantee all you haters that our offense wil thrive. Write it down. When we get our running game together, which we will, our whole offense will thrive. Its not JC fault that we are one dimensional. He does not control the o-line or rbs performances (or WRs for that matter). Someone said he has yet to hit someone in stride. But then he turns around and says he hits moss is stride for a touchdown. He misses open receivers. Its easy to sit on the sideline and say this and that. Things happen much quicker on the feel and no QB makes the right decisions 100% of the time. We have JC for the rest of the year. So please button your pie holes about ifs and buts. Support him or shut up. Because he is our QB. My belief is that he is going to be having a lot of people eating crow by the end of the season. We just need to get this running game going.
Support your QB. He is not Delhomme and even the Panthers still have faith in him. Fickle ass fans. I tell ya!!
It's easy to sit on the sideline and say this and that? Umm, hello? Dumbass says what? THAT IS ALL WE DO AROUND HERE! And who the hell are you to tell people to support Campbell or shut up. Kiss my ass. Are we all supposed to sit around here and blow smoke up his ass? How gay would that be? He's the QB for a team that hasn't scored 30 points in 19 games, and he's the only guy on Offense that touches the ball on every play. Hell, 20 points would be an Offensive break-out at this point. He may not be THE problem, but he ain't the solution either.
skinsfan69 10-01-2009, 09:34 AM OMG, our 30+ pts scoreless streak is almost as long as our defensive touchdownless streak. Who knew?
oh c/mon tripp. i know you're smarter than that silly ass comment you just made. lol.
CRedskinsRule 10-01-2009, 09:56 AM It's easy to sit on the sideline and say this and that? Umm, hello? Dumbass says what? THAT IS ALL WE DO AROUND HERE! And who the hell are you to tell people to support Campbell or shut up. Kiss my ass. Are we all supposed to sit around here and blow smoke up his ass? How gay would that be? He's the QB for a team that hasn't scored 30 points in 19 games, and he's the only guy on Offense that touches the ball on every play. Hell, 20 points would be an Offensive break-out at this point. He may not be THE problem, but he ain't the solution either.
please don't call dmv names, he is a very sensitive and understanding guy, and certainly doesn't deserve to be called a dumbass.
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