irish
11-04-2009, 01:00 PM
Or kind of like comparing Todd Collins to Jason Campbell. It's like we know one to be better than the other, but some nimrods still think we we unlikely to make the playoffs with Campbell. It's just a bad comparison, you're right.
Comparing TC to JC is like comparing a $5000 claimer and a $7500 claimer, neither is a very good horse.
SmootSmack
11-04-2009, 01:08 PM
Just my last 2 cents - the smartest thing I think that anyone can do now is to stay away from this discussion.
I'm thinking of starting a new thread comparing OchoCinco's numbers to Malcolm Kelly's on a weekly basis. The numbers don't lie!!
Maybe I'll throw in DJ Hackett's just to balance things out :)
SC Skins Fan
11-04-2009, 01:17 PM
I'm thinking of starting a new thread comparing OchoCinco's numbers to Malcolm Kelly's on a weekly basis. The numbers don't lie!!
Maybe I'll throw in DJ Hackett's just to balance things out :)
Throw in Roy Williams too. Remember how so many people said that they would rather have Williams than Johnson, and wouldn't mind giving up picks for RW, because he was "young." Yeah right.
warriorzpath
11-04-2009, 01:19 PM
I'm thinking of starting a new thread comparing OchoCinco's numbers to Malcolm Kelly's on a weekly basis. The numbers don't lie!!
Maybe I'll throw in DJ Hackett's just to balance things out :)
lol!
Monkeydad
11-09-2009, 01:52 PM
UPDATED stats/assessment...Jason's getting downright abused by this offensive line.
Cutler:
WK 9 - 29/47 (61.7%), 369 yds, 3 TD, 1 INT, 98.6 rating, 17 rush yds
TOTAL: 182/286 (63.5%), 2,046 yds, 14 TD, 12 INT, 83.8 rating, 109 rush yds
Sanchez:
WK 9 - *BYE* (final Bye for these 3 QBs)
TOTAL: 114/213 (53.5%), 1,443 yds, 8 TD, 10 INT, 67.9 rating, 60 rush yds
Campbell:
WK 9 - 15/22 (68.2%), 196 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 92.2 rating, 40 rush yds
TOTAL: 151/228 (66.2%), 1,677 yds, 9 TD, 8 INT, 86.5 rating, 143 rush yds
Ranks:
Comp. % = Campbell, Cutler, Sanchez
Yds = Cutler (2,046) Campbell (1,677) Sanchez (1,443)
TDs = Cutler (14), Campbell (9), Sanchez (8)
INTs (fewest) = Campbell (8), Sanchez/Cutler (11)
QB rating = Campbell (86.5), Cutler (83.8), Sanchez (67.9)
Rush yds = Campbell (143), Cutler (109), Sanchez(60)
Week 9 Campbell overview:
Tough week for JC, physically. In the first half, he was sacked 5 times and had been knocked out of the game with an injury. His one INT that was returned for a TD was directly attributed to a case of butterfingers by Fred Davis, who let a pass bounce off his hands into the arms of a Falcon defender. In the second half, although battered and bruised (literally), Campbell was able to lead the team back to a 24-17 deficit and put together a great second half statistically, highlighted by a nice play to use his feet to buy time and find Todd Yoder in the back corner of the endzone for a TD. Campbell had 40 more yards rushing against the Falcons. He's 4th in the NFL in rushing yards by a QB, behind only Aaron Rodgers, David Garrard and Josh Johnson. Overall, it was another painful and difficult day for Jason, but he did once again as he's done a few times this season shown that he can lead the team back when down big. If only he had the protection and teammates to prevent the team from falling so far behind, he could have a completely different reputation around the media and league. His stats were once again solid despite being completely smothered by another defense treating our line like turnstiles.
Jay Cutler had a better than usual game and some big numbers in a shootout with Arizona that the Bears lost 41-21, a game which Chicago managed only a total of 70 rushing yards.
Now with an even 8 games played by all three QBs and no more bye weeks remaining for any of them, Campbell still only trails Cutler in yards and TDs, while leading the remainder of the categories including the fewest INTs with three less than both Sanchez and Cutler. As we've seen, several of these INTs were the direct result of dropped balls or a batted ball at the line, attributable to the lack of a line.
It appears that the Redskins hit a wall at 17 points, because it is the season high for points and has been matched 4 times in 8 games! However, it can't be completely blamed on the QB play because Campbell is continuing to be efficient despite having no protection and is being hit far too many times. He has been sacked 11 times in the previous two weeks, (17 times in the past 4 games) yet has managed to help the team match it's season high of 17 points in both weeks. It appears this team as a whole hits a wall and can't score more than 17 points. No one can blame this lack of production on any single player. Campbell has actually outperformed both McNabb and Matt Ryan in the previous two games, passing for 480 yards and 3 TDs compared to 291 yards and 2 TDs for McNabb/Ryan combined.
Trample the Elderly
11-09-2009, 02:02 PM
Jason Campbell . . . :doh:
I feel sorry seeing that poor SOB in there. He reminds me of Brunell.
Monkeydad
11-09-2009, 02:12 PM
Brunell? :confused:
You're going to have to explain this one. :D
DBUCHANON101
11-09-2009, 02:50 PM
It is what it is, why must ppl spend so much time defending a guy who wont be here next here? GB and TB have terrible Olines and are not so solid team wise yet they can still score points. Not sayin its all jc's fault but he is not playing like a 1st rounder should be.
Trample the Elderly
11-09-2009, 03:18 PM
Brunell? :confused:
You're going to have to explain this one. :D
Did you see Soup on the ground in pain the other day?
That reminds me of Brunell. The only difference is that Brunell was smart enough to throw the ball away most of the time.
I used to hate him for that. Now I know why he did it. Who would want to take that kind of punishment?
Green1
11-10-2009, 12:22 AM
On one of the telecast a commentator said Zorn doesn't let JC call audibles. Is this true? If so that can explain a lot of the poor offensive performance.