Campbell's numbers dont lie

So Cutler is in the same boat as us then?

Adam Schefter just reported that the Redskins were interested in Sam Bradford, which, I'm pretty confident that we haven't hired the person who would be making those decisions yet.

No. Cutler had a huge year last year and is regarded around the NFL as a better QB than Campbell. Could JC put numbers similar to Cutler if he was in Denver's offense? No. Because he doesn't force the issue, he's not a risk taker, he checks down too early when plays are still developing. All the top QB's in the NFL are risk takers....the number one risk taker is Drew Brees. JC is a care taker.

I haven't seen enough of Bradford but I assume he takes most of his snaps out of shotgun?

i wasn't trying to bust your balls. but sanchez is a rookie and cutler has no NFL wr's so i don't see how the stats show who is the best qb out of the 3.

JC who????? This argument isn't even an argument... Campbell is terrible and Cutler is legit but has nothing to throw to.. We would have been way better with Cutler or Sanchez, so can we stop talking about Campbell!! I can't wait until he's gone.

So Cutler is in the same boat as us then?

Adam Schefter just reported that the Redskins were interested in Sam Bradford, which, I'm pretty confident that we haven't hired the person who would be making those decisions yet.

Of course we are lol Everyone want's Bradford!! He's a Peyton Manning like QB, it don't matter who our Coach is next season, they would want Sam.

JC who????? This argument isn't even an argument... Campbell is terrible and Cutler is legit but has nothing to throw to.. We would have been way better with Cutler or Sanchez, so can we stop talking about Campbell!! I can't wait until he's gone.The Vince Young apologists club weeps for you.

McNabb and Campbell is still an interesting comparison because both guys have been under imense pressure to perform over the last 3 years or so, and McNabb's results just don't seem to move with the talent he's been given. McNabb is actually having a worse year than Campbell, and remarkably is doing it with DeSean Jackson having the best year by a NFC East receiver since Moss '05. I don't really know why that's happening.

McNabb, however, is still winning because the Philadelphia defense has been excellent, and Oakland game aside, they've put away the teams they are supposed to beat in the first half. Philly also got two of their best three passing performances of the year when they went to Kevin Kolb.


I gotta disagree with you about McNabb playing worse then JC.

McNabb i think has grown very averse to pressure in his face more so then in the past, he wants the ball out of his hands so quickly that he bunny hops a few throws a game.

From watching the past 2 Eagles, I got the feeling like McNabb is testing out his new weapons on offense. McNabb especially againt us seemed to be looking vertical really looking for the big chunk plays.
(Eli was doing the same thing although less successful making some bad reads/choice and was off target.)
I kinda wish that JC would adopt some of this mentality, but its gonna be hard with this OL and the receivers are gonna have to make plays and the Sherman Lewis is gonna have to open it up.

i wasn't trying to bust your balls. but sanchez is a rookie and cutler has no NFL wr's so i don't see how the stats show who is the best qb out of the 3.

He might not have the NFL big names but he has NFL WR's put up good numbers. Cutler has something he's not alone like ppl make him out to be.

Earl Bennett WR 25 rec. 334 yards
Devin Hester WR 35 rec. 454 yards
Johnny Knox WR 24 rec. 310 yards
Greg Olsen TE 22 rec. 215 yards
Matt Forte RB 24 rec. 185 yards

Malcolm Kelly WR 7 rec. 73 yards
Devin Thomas WR 7 rec. 71 yards
Santana Moss WR 28 rec. 453 yards
Antwaan Randle EL WR 23 rec. 248 yards
Chris Cooley TE 29 rec. 332 yards
Clinton Portis RB 9 rec. 57 yards

Well, right, but how much of that is because the Philly defense manages to be great every year.

If McNabb had a below .500 win percentage, but was the exact same quarterback, would people still say he was good? I really don't think they would, though certainly, I could be wrong.

None of that matters, at least to me. The only thing that matters to me is having a winning team. McNabb is a winner. Campbell is a loser. If he was so great then he'd not have been trade bait.

No matter what, he's done just like this season. He's shell shocked. There are only two more important games for me. The rest is a throw away season. If anything, I'd rather have the #1 draft pick.

None of that matters, at least to me. The only thing that matters to me is having a winning team. McNabb is a winner. Campbell is a loser. If he was so great then he'd not have been trade bait.

No matter what, he's done just like this season. He's shell shocked. There are only two more important games for me. The rest is a throw away season. If anything, I'd rather have the #1 draft pick.Well if that was all that mattered, you'd just root for Philly. Problem solved.

It's because other things -- like a sense of loyalty -- matter that we put up with an organization we know to be inferior. Of course, you also have to consider that one of the reasons we don't win as much as they do is because we are much slower to plug the non-quarterback holes in our roster.

You don't have to make the assumption that Campbell and McNabb are equal players to see the similarities. I'm certainly not making that assumption, but a lot of the Campbell criticisms apply to McNabb as well.

I'm late getting involved in this thread, but i can't see how there is anything to even compare Jason Campbell to Donovan McNabb.

Even if we look at only their NFL careers, McNabb has been surperior in every aspect to Campbell. That's obvious. His multiple Pro Bowls, Championship Games, and lone Superbowl Appearance all attest to that.

Dating back farther, in college, McNabb also put up the surperior numbers and people knew that he would be going to the NFL. It's shocking how Jason did much of the same thing he does here down in Auburn, according to Al Borges...

No comparison between Campbell and McNabb...

I'm late getting involved in this thread, but i can't see how there is anything to even compare Jason Campbell to Donovan McNabb.

Even if we look at only their NFL careers, McNabb has been surperior in every aspect to Campbell. That's obvious. His multiple Pro Bowls, Championship Games, and lone Superbowl Appearance all attest to that.

Dating back farther, in college, McNabb also put up the surperior numbers and people knew that he would be going to the NFL. It's shocking how Jason did much of the same thing he does here down in Auburn, according to Al Borges...

No comparison between Campbell and McNabb...Well, when you've been a quarterback in the same place McNabb has for more than ten years, you're bound to run into a string of success.

I frequently ask myself if there's anything that he does so consistently well, game in and game out, that makes him such an irreplaceable part of the Philly offense. And I've come to the conclusion that: McNabb is a very, very good player, and has been so for a long time, but there's nothing Philly couldn't replace if, say, he went to go play overseas. They proved this, I think, with the Kolb pick. I doubt Kevin Kolb is ever going to be a hall of fame player, but he's a functional piece in a bigger machine, who happens to be blocked by McNabb.

None of this is meant to be disrespectful, as Donovan is valuable year in and year out in the Philly offense. Of course, if the Eagles had taken Ricky Williams instead, McNabb could have gone to the Bengals or the Bears, and you would have never heard from him again. On the other hand, he's a big reason that the Eagles have been able to remain so good for so long. By ignoring the QB position every year, they've been able to build a team that could easily survive a QB swap. Ironically.

For a much shorter time, Campbell offered us stability at the QB position, but if the difference between his career and McNabb's is that, when the going got tough, McNabb labored through it and Campbell fell victim to his teams' offensive suckitude, well, then you'd have to conclude that McNabb is the better player. I'm just not sure that the going ever got tough on McNabb, which is where the comparison falls apart.