Campbell's numbers dont lie


irish
11-02-2009, 03:02 PM
I don't think AR will be unemployed for a very long time.

I just think it's time for us to turn the page on JC. He's never had great players around him and probably never will here. But McNabb has never had great wr's either. When I see Todd Collins come off the bench and outplay JC that was one thing. But when hear guys that watch the coaches tape all say the same things I've been wondering, I think it's JC that's the problem....doesn't get the ball out on time, sloppy footwork, inaccurate, ball security issues, locks in on one wr...... I like the guy and I hope it works out for him but I just think it's time to move on.

I dont know if TC outplayed JC but with no live game action since 2007 and almost no practice with the 1st team O he did play about as good as JC which says a lot about JC as a QB.

skinsfan69
11-02-2009, 03:14 PM
I dont know if TC outplayed JC but with no live game action since 2007 and almost no practice with the 1st team O he did play about as good as JC which says a lot about JC as a QB.

I'm talking about the 07 season.

Monkeydad
11-02-2009, 03:15 PM
who cares???? you can show me stats all you want but my eyes don't lie and stats do. and when i see a qb consistenly throw the ball late, miss guys that are open, not let plays develop cause he doesn't trust his o-line, fumble the ball, throw the ball when his feet aren't set, not move safeties with his eyes and pump fakes then i don't need to see stats. people need to stop making this an o-line issue. it's an o-line issue but it's also a qb issue too.

Newsflash: I'll be tracking these QBs all season (many here appreciate it).

If you don't care...don't comment on them.

tryfuhl
11-02-2009, 03:58 PM
Newsflash: I'll be tracking these QBs all season (many here appreciate it).

If you don't care...don't comment on them.
I see what you're saying but I'm not sure any of us have the power to say don't comment on my posts if you don't like them haha

SouperMeister
11-02-2009, 05:02 PM
Rogers makes MORE THAN enough plays so you take the good and the bad...cause the good outweighs the bad by a mile. . And I would hardly call his wr's the best in the NFL. After watching Rogers for a two years what I've seen is a guy that is good enough to be effective when things are not perfect around him. With Campbell it seems everything has to be perfect for him to be effective.I found it interesting that Packers coach Mike McCarthy put 6 of 8 sacks at Rodgers feet for not getting the ball out on time. A lot of folks have been using Rodgers as an example of a QB who puts up numbers despite a high number of sacks, but now we know that he may be bringing much of those on himself if you believe his coach. The only QB numbers that really matter to me is whether the guy wins games for you, and for Rodgers, the jury is still out on that count.

GTripp0012
11-02-2009, 06:58 PM
who cares???? you can show me stats all you want but my eyes don't lie and stats do. and when i see a qb consistenly throw the ball late, miss guys that are open, not let plays develop cause he doesn't trust his o-line, fumble the ball, throw the ball when his feet aren't set, not move safeties with his eyes and pump fakes then i don't need to see stats. people need to stop making this an o-line issue. it's an o-line issue but it's also a qb issue too.Well, try not to get all high and mighty on those of us trying to have a civil conversation.

Campbell is struggling at a whole lot of things right now, and his overall numbers are dropping to career-average levels. At the end of the year, Campbell will more or less look like the same passer he has the last few seasons, which disappoints those of us who were predicting 20% improvement across the board.

skinsfan69
11-02-2009, 07:41 PM
Newsflash: I'll be tracking these QBs all season (many here appreciate it).

If you don't care...don't comment on them.

i wasn't trying to bust your balls. but sanchez is a rookie and cutler has no NFL wr's so i don't see how the stats show who is the best qb out of the 3.

GTripp0012
11-02-2009, 07:44 PM
i wasn't trying to bust your balls. but sanchez is a rookie and cutler has no NFL wr's so i don't see how the stats show who is the best qb out of the 3.So Cutler is in the same boat as us then?

Adam Schefter just reported that the Redskins were interested in Sam Bradford, which, I'm pretty confident that we haven't hired the person who would be making those decisions yet.

DBUCHANON101
11-02-2009, 08:04 PM
Id rather see us go LT in the draft and if there isnt a good QB in the 2nd we can then go after a QB in FA. We definately need a LT and a Center first and foremost. Then a RB to take snaps from CP.
I guess it all depends on what our new HC wants to do offensively. But it all starts up front.

SmootSmack
11-02-2009, 08:57 PM
So Cutler is in the same boat as us then?

Adam Schefter just reported that the Redskins were interested in Sam Bradford, which, I'm pretty confident that we haven't hired the person who would be making those decisions yet.

Did he say interested or just that he wouldn't likely slip past us? This is all connected to Dr. James Andrews performing surgery on Bradford, right?

As for all these stats being tossed around here. Stats are a funny thing. We can look back at the 1991 season and say "Wow, Rypien had 28 TDs and just 11 INTs that year" but most of us wouldn't recall that he had 11 TDs and 7 INTs (or something like that) at the halfway point. And if we looked only at the stats, we wouldn't think that was the QB of an 8-0 team

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