Campbell's numbers dont lie


hooskins
09-28-2009, 10:23 PM
Here is another thing, Zorn really got away from the run early in the game. That shows lack of discipline, along with going for it on 4th and goal(which I feel was purely because of the media/fan pressure to get a TD).

Hog1
09-28-2009, 10:28 PM
if you cannot call a run on 3rd and one, you don't have a running game

CultBrennan59
09-28-2009, 10:30 PM
50 % of the reason our offense sucks is zorns play calling
the other 50% is jason campbell

GTripp0012
09-28-2009, 10:31 PM
50 % of the reason our offense sucks is zorns play calling
the other 50% is jason campbellAnd 50% is that we don't have anyone else on the field apparently.

I know that equals 150%, but I guess that is what it takes to cover all your bases.

CultBrennan59
09-28-2009, 10:34 PM
I'll also go out on a limb here and say this.
Zorn gets fired and Mike shannanhan is our new HC. Campbell doesn't get resigned and goes to minnesota. We get a draft pick in the top ten. We do what ever we can to get sam bradford. Our OL next year will be. Donald Penn (of Tampa bay) at LT, Derrick Dockery LG, Draft pick at C (Mike Pouncey of Florida), Jahri Evans (of New Orleans) RG, Stephon Heyer at RT (or Samuels if we keep him). Our DL will be Orakpo at RE, Griffin, haynesworth, Jarmon at LE. Our LB's will be mcintosh, fletcher, and either a draft pick, or a FA. Our corners will be one of the crappy ones now, and a FA like dunta robinson. And I say that Shannahan asks for a new GM, and Vinny gets positioned down from GM, to like a smaller position.
I'm a very optimistic person, but I just see no way we win games with an offense that can't score in the red zone. Our defense is OK, they could be better if the offense stays on the field longer. I'm not as confident saying this, but I think LaRon could be trade bate for a high draft pick. And I forgot to mention that Greg Blache will either Resign or be fired.

GTripp0012
09-28-2009, 10:39 PM
I think, a true rebuilding process would simply be: a decision on Hall, a decision on Landry, no more Smoot, a move away from Daniels and Wynn, releasing Randy Thomas outright, releasing Betts, a decision on Rabach, a franchise tag on Rogers, an RFA tender to Jason Campbell (assuming no CBA extension), a RFA tender to Rocky Mac, and I would trade up into the bottom of the second round AFTER using both of my first two picks and add some competition at the quarterback position.

If it's a true rebuilding project, I would not be afraid to start the rookie at QB if he beats out Jason Campebll.

BaltimoreSkins
09-28-2009, 10:40 PM
50 % of the reason our offense sucks is zorns play calling
the other 50% is jason campbell

This is an asinine statement. I guess our #1 RB being ineffective and our #2 getting tired quickly isn't an offensive problem? How about receivers dropping passes or their inability to separate?

12thMan
09-28-2009, 10:43 PM
if you cannot call a run on 3rd and one, you don't have a running game

Exactly. I don't know why people keep talking about Zorn abandoned the running game. We don't have one. Period. We don't have the horses up front or in the backfield any longer. Portis isn't getting it done. The offensive isn't getting done.

roth74va
09-28-2009, 10:53 PM
Exactly. I don't know why people keep talking about Zorn abandoned the running game. We don't have one. Period. We don't have the horses up front or in the backfield any longer. Portis isn't getting it done. The offensive isn't getting done.

ZERO rushing yards in the 1st half.........enough said.

CultBrennan59
09-28-2009, 10:57 PM
This is an asinine statement. I guess our #1 RB being ineffective and our #2 getting tired quickly isn't an offensive problem? How about receivers dropping passes or their inability to separate?

Our strength is our running game, so when teams stack 8 in the box, that forces you to pass. The person who passes the ball...the QB!!
Sure the receivers have dropped a few, but a lot of campbells passes have been off target, and theres a reason Zorn doesn't have a lot of faith in campbell. And I agree betts should be cut, but really its the crappy play calling. And JC decision making has been awful. Example: 3 & 8, jason throws it to cooley on a short 5 yd route, and they come up 1 yd short. He doesn't throw to a receiver running downfield or towards the 1st down marker, he throws to a receiver running back to him. Just like when he was in the 2 min drill against detroit, he throws it to cartwright for a gain, then the clocks ticking, and what does he do? throws it to cartwright AGAIN in the middle of the field for a 2 yard gain. he should have thrown it towards the endzone or away. It's little things like that which make me say "He is not the answer" I've seen enough to say that year 2 in this offense is no different that year 1 in this offense. If campbell is struggling against detroit and st. louis, then how do you think he's going to do against philly, san diego, atlanta, carolina, new orleans, etc.?

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