Bigger waste of money?

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Redskins_P
10-11-2004, 12:45 AM
this thread is bullshit if the person who posted this actaully had a clue what they were talking about football they would have never posted it. Look for all you gibbs hater s hes a fantastic coach but god for bid he needs time, he needs his guys and bottom line right now he dosent have them. Brunell looked terrible and right now hes a major waste of money. But ramsey is the guy we should key on hes the future we have nothing else to lose we should put him in. I really wish people would learn there football and stop trashing gibbs

great post jthor99, thank you

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
10-11-2004, 12:46 AM
this thread is bullshit if the person who posted this actaully had a clue what they were talking about football they would have never posted it. Look for all you gibbs hater s hes a fantastic coach but god for bid he needs time, he needs his guys and bottom line right now he dosent have them. Brunell looked terrible and right now hes a major waste of money. But ramsey is the guy we should key on hes the future we have nothing else to lose we should put him in. I really wish people would learn there football and stop trashing gibbs

I understand the frustration and agree with some of your comments, but even in the face of blasphemy (lol), let's keep it to respectful, even if strong, disagreements.

htownskinfan
10-11-2004, 12:48 AM
i love gibbs,but it was his idea to give a washed up qb a bunch of money which we didnt have to do when most every skin fan i know wanted ramsey to start anyway

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
10-11-2004, 12:52 AM
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and it is okay to strongly disagree with what someone says, but allowing any comments/suggestions to be posted is important to this site.

IMO, Gibbs is our answer, will turn this thing around, and will bring us a Lombardi trophy, but the 1-4 start isn't encouraging and if his name were not Gibbs, a lot of people would be calling for his head (not just Snyder). Gibbs' coaching staff hasn't improved the offense, the O-line, the passing game, the run game, etc. Gibbs and Co. have produced four straight losses.

So, even though I STRONGLY disagree with the post, there is justification for frustration and lots of room for criticism. Vince Lombardi, who just so happens to be a HOF coach who coached here in D.C. after his first tour in Green Bay, wasn't successful. So, it's not crazy to broach the question of whether the game has passed Gibbs by.

After week 1, 2, or 3, it's out of left field to question Gibbs, but 30% through the season, it's not. Again, I STRONGLY disagree with the original post, but the poster doesn't deserved to be trashed.

illdefined
10-11-2004, 12:59 AM
just saw this thread, have no idea how it even got this far. Gibbs felt his system would be better run by a vet like Brunell, especially this season. as bad as the offense has picked up the Gibbs system, its a good bet Ramsey would have fared even worse. lest you forget preseason. Brunell is obviously the biggest waste of money cuz we paid longterm money (he's already 34) for being a shortterm solution. and a flawed one at that. Gibbs could coach from a wheelchair. and would. lay off the guy, just an uninformed post.

x44x
10-11-2004, 01:02 AM
gibbs was 0-5 the 1st time around. hes doing better this time. 6th game coming up, this is where we start winning week after week.

SmootSmack
10-11-2004, 02:11 AM
Gibbs is not the problem. And there are few, if any, coaches who would be better than Gibbs. He's earned the right to go through some growing pains. He's proven in the past he can climb out of a hole and turn the Skins into winners. As has been said repeatedly here, he's a Hall of Fame coach and no amount of money is too much for him.

If he told Snyder "I want $5 million a year, your house, the keys to your mercedes, and I wanna bang your wife every Thursday" Well then that's what Joe Gibbs gets

Brunell on the other hand...sigh

bedlamVR
10-11-2004, 03:13 AM
It is amazing people are always bashing Snyder for getting rid of HC etc etc but he is a fan and fans apparently are calling for the head of the HOF coach in week 5 in his first year. Who can be right.

Brunell however is a big problem I hated this move origonally and we effectivly out bid ourselves chasing him . Had we waited him out maybe we might have lost out but equally we could have picked up after the Jags cut him for an awful lot less money. Also i hate to say it but i kind of wish we had gone for Warner but choices were made at the time.

That Guy
10-11-2004, 06:21 AM
at the time i woul d have never wanted warner... he's unafraid of throwing deep though, but i'm not sure his personality would have meshed as well with gibbs (which is probably the main reason brunell got the job)... you know, the whole gibbs loves god, warner has a deal with satan thing would have made things a bit difficult around here...

everyone thinks brunell is overpaid... way overpaid.

Other teams that have one win:
packers (playoffs)
titans (playoffs)
panthers (Super bowl)
chiefs (playoffs)
bengals (8-8)

we're not alone in the talented team doing crappy department, and all the above clubs have what are regarded as good coaches (playoffs, SBs, winning records etc)... sh*t happens, this year, once again, its happening to us, but there's still a light at the end of the tunnel and i don't have any doubt, but he has been a bit slow adjusting thusfar...

ZackMills
10-11-2004, 08:24 AM
gibbs was 0-5 the 1st time around. hes doing better this time. 6th game coming up, this is where we start winning week after week.

I really wish people would stop bringing that up. Just because we went 0-5 his first tenure doesnt mean were gonna do it again. Plus, that was when he was a rookie coach, he's not a rookie coach, he's a HOF coach, so why doesnt he hit the ground running if he's so great, a la Bill Parcells?

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