Josh Johnson Named Tampa Bay Quarterback

He's not untouchable and he had a rough second half yesterday, but by the time you get far enough down the list to reach him, you've reached "whole team is at fault" status.

Which, well, it might be true but it's not even worth saying.

Well with that being said he certainly isn't playing worse than the situation in Cleveland or Oak. lol.

I am interested in knowing what conclusions you have drawn....

Please share!! :D
The D has NOT taken on the personna I expected. I envisioned AH dragging three guys into the backfield while Arakpo threw the QB to the ground like a rag doll. THAT obviously is not happening.
BUT, if the D has not changed and we were winning (to a point) last season...what has changed.
Well, well maybe they aren't who we wanted yet, but they are good enough?
That obviously points to the O totally, and perhaps the D doesn't deserve.........ALL the bad press they have gotten

Do you think JC is just untouchable or something? Like it or not he's part of the problem and did not have a good game yesterday.

As for Johnson didn't he have monster college numbers? He was drafted by Gruden. That's all I know about him.

He's not untouchable but he's certainly not my main concern right now.

Just tired of hearing the same old same old, despite the fact he's played well under the circumstances.

If this season so far has shown me anything, it's that our problems run much deeper than QB. Yet some people continue to focus on JC. It's insane.

And besides, this thread isn't about JC. Another reason for the fail.

The D has NOT taken on the personna I expected. I envisioned AH dragging three guys into the backfield while Arakpo threw the QB to the ground like a rag doll. THAT obviously is not happening.
BUT, if the D has not changed and we were winning (to a point) last season...what has changed.
Well, well maybe they aren't who we wanted yet, but they are good enough?
That obviously points to the O totally, and perhaps the D doesn't deserve.........ALL the bad press they have gotten

You started off good then you lost me. Did you watch the game yesterday? Did you think our D looked good? At one point the Lions were 9-11 on 3rd down conversions.

You ever think that we were wining during that stretch because of the offense? Or better yet we were playing as a team and had each units back. Two things to keep in mind. During most of that stretch JC didn't have any interceptions (he's such a horrible QB -- end sarcasm). Here's a interesting stat with a minumum of 500 pass atempts JC threw the least ints in the whole entire NFL. Secondly Portis was running rampant. If he had kept on his pace he would have had close to 1,800 yrd rushing. If anything last year the offense saved the defense from itself during that stretch. We upgraded on D and they give up 0.1 more yards a game.

It works both ways. The offense keeps the D off the field when we produce long drives and the O gets more opportunities when the D stops the opposition on 3rd downs. So lets get back to my point. During the stretch when Portis got nicked up and we didn't produce a running game we lost some games not only because of the running game being slowed down due to injury and inefficent 2nd and 3rd string RBs but also our D couldn't stop squat. Yesterday they were horrendous. The O wasn't awesome but the D had them beat as far as playing like trash.

The D definitely is not getting a free pass on this ride buddy!

I don't know what it is with Blache playing rookie or inexperienced quarterbacks like they're Peyton Manning or something but I do know whatever he is doing hasn't worked. Going up against a quarterback like a Matt Stafford in his third pro game or a Josh Johnson who's never started should signal a field day for our defense but it seems like Blache gives them too much respect, like he's afraid of them lighting us up like the Pats did in '07. I really wish he'd "throw the book" at them and make them play lights out against our d in order to win. He's not challenging them at all, as evidenced by Matt Stafford playing like a 5th year Pro Bowl qb against us, leading the friggin Lions down the field like they're the friggin Pats.

right! more of this should fall on the O, than the D

I don't know what it is with Blache playing rookie or inexperienced quarterbacks like they're Peyton Manning or something but I do know whatever he is doing hasn't worked. Going up against a quarterback like a Matt Stafford in his third pro game or a Josh Johnson who's never started should signal a field day for our defense but it seems like Blache gives them too much respect, like he's afraid of them lighting us up like the Pats did in '07. I really wish he'd "throw the book" at them and make them play lights out against our d in order to win. He's not challenging them at all, as evidenced by Matt Stafford playing like a 5th year Pro Bowl qb against us, leading the friggin Lions down the field like they're the friggin Pats.

NO I think he just makes excuses ahead of time. You are right, when it is a rookie QB, you disquise the blitz and throw everything at him including the kitchen sink. The O coordinators that play us are playing Chess and Blache is playing Checkers. If he loses to a rookie QB again this week. He needs to go. The Bucs were shut out last week by the Giants. We are not the Giants but if they put up a lot of points on us then he is to blame.

I bet the Lions come in second to the Vikes in the division
haha

In other Florida QB news...Chad Pennington reportedly done for the year

Not to quote myself...but I just wanted to give an update, Dolphins just traded for Tyler Thigpen

Not to quote myself...but I just wanted to give an update, Dolphins just traded for Tyler Thigpen

Seems like an odd move. You're starting (now) your 2008 2nd round pick, spent another 2nd round pick in 2009 (thanks to us) on a QB in Pat White and now have added yet another QB via trade?