Disjointed Coaching Structure

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Skinny Tee
09-28-2009, 04:42 AM
Check the appointment orgins of these coaches and gauge whether the front office has made a concerted effort at building a team that works together toward success.

Take a look and then see if you can find another coaching heirarchy in the NFL that has this many disjointed coaches with no previous working connections.

Last question...If our franchise chose to go in a different direction than Gregg Williams for Head Coach why are so many of the coaches he brought to the Redskins still apart of our football team?

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Jim Zorn - Appointed by Vinny Cerrato as Head Coach in 2008 after first being signed as an offensive coordinator. Previously a QB coach with Seattle.

Greg Blache - Brought in by Gregg Williams to DL coach in 2004. Promoted to DC in 2008 after his appointer, Gregg Williams, is not hired as head coach. Previously from Chicago.

Sherman Smith - Brought in by Jim Zorn to be offensive coordinator in 2008. Worked with Jim Zorn in Seattle.

Joe Bugel - Brought in by Joe Gibbs 2.0 in 2004 as OL coach. Came back after two years out of football.

Stump Mitchell - Brought in by Jim Zorn in 2008 to be RB coach. Worked with Zorn in Seattle.

Stan Hixon - Brought in by Joe Gibbs 2.0 in 2004 as WR coach. Previously WR coach for LSU Tigers.

Scott Wachenheim - Brought in by Vinny Cerrato in 2009 as TE coach. Previously coached locally at Liberty University.

John Palermo - Brought in by Vinny Ceratto in 2008 to be DL coach. Previously a DL coach in the college ranks and apart of the 1988 Notre Dame National Chamionship.

Kirk Olivadotti - 10 year Redskins assistant who has been internally promoted to LB coach.

Jerry Gray - Brought in by Gregg Williams in 2006 to coach Secondary. Previously coached alongside Gregg in Buffalo.

Steve Jackson Brought in by Gregg Williams in 2004 to coach safties.
Previously coached alongside Gregg in Buffalo.

Danny Smith - Brought in by Gregg Williams in 2004 to coach the Special Teams. Previously coached alongside Gregg in Buffalo.

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tootergray34
09-28-2009, 05:33 AM
all bums except bugel

skins89moss
09-28-2009, 06:39 AM
Joe has been a great O-Line coach for the Redskins but he is near the end of his career. I think this is his last season. It might be all of the coaching staffs last season.

Skinny Tee
09-28-2009, 06:49 AM
Joe has been a great O-Line coach for the Redskins but he is near the end of his career. I think this is his last season. It might be all of the coaching staffs last season.

That'd be a great idea since they seem to have no coaching correlation to each other. Our entire staff might work together better and probably it'd be best if they answer to one overseer of the entire unit...namely a head coach...instead of one guy for the offense and one guy for the defense.

Gibbs is gone and so should that lame ass coaching structure of the Co-Head Coaches. It's not the cockpit of an airplane for god sakes...it's a head coaching position...put ONE GUY IN CHARGE OF EVERYTHING!

Don't think I don't see Zorn not having a clue as to what happens with the defense...effing ridiculous!

hagams
09-28-2009, 06:50 AM
Looks like the good ol' boy system to me. And I think Joe will leave on his own after this season, if we are feed up with this crap, imagine how he must feel.

PennSkinsFan
09-28-2009, 10:02 AM
Well, the root of the problem is a dysfunctional franchise. A sign of problems. Hiring a coaching staff before you hire your head coach.

redsk1
09-28-2009, 10:12 AM
Well, the root of the problem is a dysfunctional franchise. A sign of problems. Hiring a coaching staff before you hire your head coach.


They hired Jim Zorn as an offensive coordinator prior to naming a head coach. Tell me that isn't the dumbest thing you've ever heard. Many here tried to defend the move.

I'm ok w/ having the newly hired coach having the option of keeping a coordinator. It should be the new coach's decision though. Generally, a new coach wants to bring in his guys. JZ has no coordinator experience and Sherman Smith didn't want to come here until being convinced otherwise.

Just like Norv Turner...Jim Zorn...i like the guy, but I never liked the hire by our FO.

Amazingly they hadn't done some DUE DILIGENCE on new coaching candidates going into JG's final year. Two of the interviews we had:

Rex Ryan
Jim Schwartz

Hmmm...VC you've got to go buddy.

SmootSmack
09-28-2009, 10:13 AM
Well, the Dolphins did something very similar with Sparano

But really this comes down to the inconsistency between "moving forward" and "continuity" They probably should have just chosen one path and committed to that.

DBUCHANON101
09-28-2009, 10:26 AM
They hired Jim Zorn as an offensive coordinator prior to naming a head coach. Tell me that isn't the dumbest thing you've ever heard. Many here tried to defend the move.

I'm ok w/ having the newly hired coach having the option of keeping a coordinator. It should be the new coach's decision though. Generally, a new coach wants to bring in his guys. JZ has no coordinator experience and Sherman Smith didn't want to come here until being convinced otherwise.

Just like Norv Turner...Jim Zorn...i like the guy, but I never liked the hire by our FO.

Amazingly they hadn't done some DUE DILIGENCE on new coaching candidates going into JG's final year. Two of the interviews we had:

Rex Ryan
Jim Schwartz

Hmmm...VC you've got to go buddy.

Jets may win the east and the Lions are on their way up.
Dont forget Josh McDaniels. who is looking like a fkn mastermind to this point. got picks for a QB that he didnt need and now he is building a solid team in Denver. At least he spreads the defenses out to run the ball while makin teams fear the pass. Switched them to a 3-4 and they are doing well thus far with the switch.

redsk1
09-28-2009, 10:41 AM
Jets may win the east and the Lions are on their way up.
Dont forget Josh McDaniels. who is looking like a fkn mastermind to this point. got picks for a QB that he didnt need and now he is building a solid team in Denver. At least he spreads the defenses out to run the ball while makin teams fear the pass. Switched them to a 3-4 and they are doing well thus far with the switch.

Yeah, i was trying to give the other candidates some props like Ryan, Schwartz (whom i really like), and i forgot about Josh McDaniels.

Spagnola too who i'm unsold on at the moment.

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