Slingin Sammy 33
09-28-2009, 05:42 PM
Probably a one year deal then. Kind of like when Schotty was sent packing, you know, it just wasn't fun. His words. It wasn't fun. That is scary stuff.I would hope Snyder has learned from his earlier mistakes in the Pepper Rodgers / Spurrier debacle. He should give Holmgren a 5 year deal and then get out of the way.
SmootSmack
09-28-2009, 06:24 PM
I would hope Snyder has learned from his earlier mistakes in the Pepper Rodgers / Spurrier debacle. He should give Holmgren a 5 year deal and then get out of the way.
Apparently Holmgren is more interested in returning as a head coach than a general manager.
tryfuhl
09-28-2009, 06:34 PM
I don't think that Smith ever worked with Zorn in Seattle unless you mean played for a check. He was with the Oilers/Titans the whole way through until here right?
Skinny Tee
09-28-2009, 06:41 PM
I don't think that Smith ever worked with Zorn in Seattle unless you mean played for a check. He was with the Oilers/Titans the whole way through until here right?
Redskins.com
"Prior to joining the Redskins, Smith spent 13 seasons as running backs coach with the Tennessee Titans (1995-2007). He also held the title of assistant head coach the last two seasons."
You're right. I took the Seattle part from it and attributed it to Zorn because of their previous playing relation.
He did come from the Titans as a RB coach but was still brought in through Zorn.
JWsleep
09-28-2009, 06:51 PM
I don't know about all this--are other staffs less "disjointed" in the sense of the first post?
Hard to know if this matters except by comparison to successful staffs.
I don't know about all this--are other staffs less "disjointed" in the sense of the first post?
Hard to know if this matters except by comparison to successful staffs.
I think you would see similar things if you picked apart other staffs.
Not every coach on every staff falls from the same tree. Guys may not have worked together, but there are definitely "connections" with guys.
Skinny Tee
09-28-2009, 07:47 PM
I think you would see similar things if you picked apart other staffs.
Not every coach on every staff falls from the same tree. Guys may not have worked together, but there are definitely "connections" with guys.
It's disjointed in that here are the names of the people who brought on the current coaching staff:
Vinny Cerrato
Joe Gibbs
Gregg Williams
Jim Zorn
4 different people have brought in the current staff. Of those guys only 2 remain...both of which have no previous head coaching experience.
My contention is that there is a lack of a true leader in the coaching ranks. Blache operates apart from the offense and Zorn doesn't even overlook or contribute anything to the defensive players.
The only person right now that at least oversees all aspects is Vinny Cerrato. I think we're seeing the effects of not having a football coach in charge of all aspects of the team.
Dirtbag59
09-28-2009, 07:49 PM
Bring in Eric DeCosta and let him choose the coach. So long as it's not someone from the Belicheck coaching tree I think we'll be fine.
It's disjointed in that here are the names of the people who brought on the current coaching staff:
Vinny Cerrato
Joe Gibbs
Gregg Williams
Jim Zorn
4 different people have brought in the current staff. Of those guys only 2 remain...both of which have no previous head coaching experience.
My contention is that there is a lack of a true leader in the coaching ranks. Blache operates apart from the offense and Zorn doesn't even overlook or contribute anything to the defensive players.
The only person right now that at least oversees all aspects is Vinny Cerrato. I think we're seeing the effects of not having a football coach in charge of all aspects of the team.
Again, I'd prefer to see how other staffs shake out before I make any hard conclusions about the Skins setup. You're taking one staff and putting it under the microscope and assuming this is the only staff in the league built this way.
It's certainly not uncommon for staffs to have holdovers from previous ones.
SmootSmack
09-28-2009, 09:27 PM
It's disjointed in that here are the names of the people who brought on the current coaching staff:
Vinny Cerrato
Joe Gibbs
Gregg Williams
Jim Zorn
4 different people have brought in the current staff. Of those guys only 2 remain...both of which have no previous head coaching experience.
My contention is that there is a lack of a true leader in the coaching ranks. Blache operates apart from the offense and Zorn doesn't even overlook or contribute anything to the defensive players.
The only person right now that at least oversees all aspects is Vinny Cerrato. I think we're seeing the effects of not having a football coach in charge of all aspects of the team.
You make it sound like Zorn and Blache don't discuss defensive game plans, which is 100% not true
But Matty is right, you're basically putting this staff under the microscope and making assumptions about the rest of the league