Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!

Ok that is fair. So let's start with the top. Send a message and fire the head coach. He is incompetent and when you want to change a culture, you get rid of the leader. Blache can go to, I really don't care, but at least he has proven over several years that he can effectively lead a defensive group.

Zorn, had never led jacksh-- before he was handed the job last year and we are paying for it every week. Once the league got some tape on him and figured out his tendencies, his offense has been castrated by good and bad teams.

Firing anyone right now is a little too reactionary and knee-jerk for my taste.

If we're sitting at 1-6 at the bye, ok, I might understand firing someone. But even then, it's not going to help us this year.

The best thing we can hope for is Zorn gets this ship righted, somehow. If not you clean house the day after the season ends and go from there.

Firing anyone right now is a little too reactionary and knee-jerk for my taste.

If we're sitting at 1-6 at the bye, ok, I might understand firing someone. But even then, it's not going to help us this year.

The best thing we can hope for is Zorn gets this ship righted, somehow. If not you clean house the day after the season ends and go from there.


I just don't see it happening. Zorn is getting worse at game management. He makes Jerry Glanville look like Joe Gibbs version 2.

He isn't coaching the games like they are his last, he is coaching every play like it is his last.

He is crumbling under the pressure right before our eyes and I do not believe in just throwing away a season, not when it could be saved.

Send a message and start at the real top. Fire Vonny Cerrato for putting this team together. I vaguely remember him saying two years ago that he was accountable. Pay back is a bitch.

I may be in the minority but I am not that unhappy with Vinny's moves since Gibbs left.

I think he has assembled a lot of talented players and the coaches are not effectively using them.

I think it's time to forget about what the defense has done in the past and focus on what they're doing now, and that's not much.

They can't get off the field right now on 3rd downs, they've given up 100 yard rushers in back to back weeks, and the overall effort seems uninspired and lazy. There's a lot of blame to go around right now, nobody gets a pass in my book.

Exactly. I think the "D" gets a pass from some people because

#1 They've been good in the past
#2 The offense is having trouble scoring

Neither one is an excuse for giving up so many first downs and not being able to get off the field. Our defense doesn't worry anyone. Not even the Lions. They had scoring drives of 99-74-86, and 85 yards. That is pathetic.

Just saw the video myself and the one that really stood out was the one with Kelly Johnson and the players in the locker room. They are throwing themselves under the bus. Specially are two AWESOME CORNERS!!! (sarcasm)
Toast 1 and Toast 2 said that we have players thinking they are better than they are! Could they be talking of themselves? Cause they sure stunk the place up today as they have the first 2 games.

Our corners played well. Look at how long Stafford had to throw on so many plays, including his 21 yrd. run. The coverage on the td was tight too. Sure, they got beat on some plays but they held C. Johnson under 50 yards. We need a pass rush!

Blanche is definitely partially to blame for this unacceptable loss to the Lions. A so-called top defense does not allow the hapless Lions these types of long scoring drives. There is no excuse for not being able to get off the field when necessary. The Lions had long sustained drives and that cannot be explained. If you can't get off the field against the Lions, what about the Cowboys, Eagles, Giants...

1st QTR
99 yards, 12 plays, possession 5:50, 21 yd touchdown pass

2nd QTR
74 yards, 11 plays, possession 5:26, 39 yd field goal
86 yards, 18 plays, possession 6:53, 26 yd field goal

4th QTR
85 yards, 8 plays, possession 3:44, 2 yd touchdown run

Send a message and start at the real top. Fire Vonny Cerrato for putting this team together. I vaguely remember him saying two years ago that he was accountable. Pay back is a bitch.

Not to mention that, by all accounts, Zorn was a Vinny hire. He made a strong push for the guy. Failure by Zorn is failure by Vinny, even apart from his personnel decisions.

We need to tackle a helluva lot better!

I said several times this summer that I expected this defense to fall in statistical categories, give up more yards, but also get more turnovers. So far, everything but the turnovers is coming to fruition.

By the end of last year, this defense wasn't that good. I know they were often on the field a long time, but they couldn't stop below avg. offenses like Baltimore & S.F. when it counted. Statistically, last year they were overachievers, but there were several games when the team needed a big stop & they couldn't do it.

I think Blache has a decent fundamental system, but his blitzing is so obvious; watch the safefites & LBs before a play; 90% of the time whoever creeps up to the line is the one blitzing! There's no element of confusion that GW's defenses had, when QBs didn't know which guys were coming. That is coaching & is all on Blache.

Another problem in all 3 games this year; the D plays so much better in the 2nd half. It's as if it takes a whole half for them to warm up & make adjustments. They gave up 275 yards (terrible) in the 1st half yesterday, 106 (great) in the second. That's not a sign of a well coached, well prepared team.

I'm not saying Blache should be replaced, but I think it's obvious that at times like this the HC needs to assert himself on the DC & let him know that he's got to make some changes, even if they're minor. Can Zorn do that? I'm not sure.

Rogers has always struggled with the biggest, most physical of wide receivers, but Bryant Johnson now qualifies? Really?

Something has to be wrong with him. He's just not winning his jams at the line of scrimmage and even when he's running step for step down the field he's not in good position. He's not right.

How can we he jam someone when Blache has him 10 yards off the line of scrimmage?