Now What??

Dude, you're an idiot.

Thanks for your creative contribution and attack.

I'll at least clarify my post as opposed to personally attack you for yours.


You think Zorn is responsible for this???...You're sadly mistaken. Who hired a first time ever coach who has never even been a OC and brought him in to coach without allowing him to fill out his coaching ranks?

Who put Super Bowl expectations on QBs Coach from Seattle who has never even been a OC or called an NFL play before.

Sure as shit wasn't Zorn.

The whole last two years have been a GROSS MISMANAGEMENT of personnel and staff and beyond. Great talent and players like Portis and Moss are toiling away while their winning years are quickly passing by them. They can't wait two years to find out that their winning aspirations have been comprised by an inept front office.


Since you think otherwise I'll take you calling me an "idiot" as a compliment as only an idiot think that responsibility of this loss lies on Zorn.

The same way you blame dropped passes, fumbles, penalties and the offense being unable to run for 1 yard for a TD on Zorn.


Last week the word was Zorn ran the ball too much, should have passed more. This week he has Jason throw forty one times and he should have run more. Looks like the only way he wins is to bet he loses'. He did throw the fade once today to Kelly incomplete. I said earlier, this team does have some personnel issues.

Thanks for your creative contribution and attack.

I'll at least clarify my post as opposed to personally attack you for yours.


You think Zorn is responsible for this???...You're sadly mistaken. Who hired a first time ever coach who has never even been a OC and brought him in to coach without allowing him to fill out his coaching ranks?

Who put Super Bowl expectations on QBs Coach from Seattle who has never even been a OC or called an NFL play before.

Sure as shit wasn't Zorn.

The whole last two years have been a GROSS MISMANAGEMENT of personnel and staff and beyond. Great talent and players like Portis and Moss are toiling away while their winning years are quickly passing by them. They can't wait two years to find out that their winning aspirations have been comprised by an inept front office.


Since you think otherwise I'll take you calling me an "idiot" as a compliment as only an idiot think that responsibility of this loss lies on Zorn.

So how are you going to get Snyder to sell the team then? I do agree that Cerrato needs to go...but how are fans going to get the Snyder factor out of this equation? He owns the team and there's nothing you and I can change about that.

I just think that it is idiotic...ok let me be nicer...it is naive for anyone to dismiss the coach easily and put it all on the FO. We saw a terrible coach out there today and he needs to go, plain and simple. Maybe not right away, but he needs to go. He's a terrible playcaller and someone else needs to take over.

i agree and all QB have things they struggle with but it's hard to correct them when you don't have time to think i'm not sure most QB's could with this line

You may be correct but the HC has the duty of finding time for his QB. Somehow. Maybe even rolling the QB out more often or using shot gun more often or fixing the O-line issues.

Someone mentioned they were losing their one on one battles. Maybe it's the blocking scheme? I really don't know. If I knew I'm sure I would be getting paid to be a coach but I'm not. I'm sure some one will probably say..."then STFU". At this point I think we all are guessing as to what the problem is but one thing is for sure.....the team is not scoring and they can't seem to fix the problem. Who's fault is that?

I can tell you DS is not giving up the team. He's making money. He's most likely not to fire his little buddy Vinny. Those are almost guaranteed. So there is no sense in bringing thos up.

I think everything else is fair game.

What I saw;

1) the center couldn't hike the ball right several times.
2) JC having a hard time handling the ball.
3) run blocking sucked.
4) WR's not able to get open.
5) bad play calls.
6) bad calls by the refs.
7) Portis playing hurt.
8) Betts sucks
9) ? anyone else want to chime in?

well I thought JC ran the redzone plays effectively, and scored touchdowns i might add. (i am not talking about when Zorn was calling them, but when he was just running the whole offense)

You may be correct but the HC has the duty of finding time for his QB. Somehow. Maybe even rolling the QB out more often or using shot gun more often or fixing the O-line issues.

Someone mentioned they were losing their one on one battles. Maybe it's the blocking scheme? I really don't know. If I knew I'm sure I would be getting paid to be a coach but I'm not. I'm sure some one will probably say..."then STFU". At this point I think we all are guessing as to what the problem is but one thing is for sure.....the team is not scoring and they can't seem to fix the problem. Who's fault is that?

I can tell you DS is not giving up the team. He's making money. He's most likely not to fire his little buddy Vinny. Those are almost guaranteed. So there is no sense in bringing thos up.

I think everything else is fair game.

What I saw;

1) the center couldn't hike the ball right several times.
2) JC having a hard time handling the ball.
3) run blocking sucked.
4) WR's not able to get open.
5) bad play calls.
6) bad calls by the refs.
7) Portis playing hurt.
8) Betts sucks
9) ? anyone else want to chime in?
Ill add my Two cents....Chris Cooley not in the mix, Jim Zorn calling like he's not ready to be a coach

of course hey with all this drama and stuff what are the odds they come out next week and Take Tampa bay to the woodshed

I think I would react to this loss by seeing if Holmgren would come in as an advisor and release Blache(this may be kneejerk and I reserve the right to rescind this statement by Tuesday) as the sacrificial lamb from this debacle.

So how are you going to get Snyder to sell the team then? I do agree that Cerrato needs to go...but how are fans going to get the Snyder factor out of this equation? He owns the team and there's nothing you and I can change about that.

I just think that it is idiotic...ok let me be nicer...it is naive for anyone to dismiss the coach easily and put it all on the FO. We saw a terrible coach out there today and he needs to go, plain and simple. Maybe not right away, but he needs to go. He's a terrible playcaller and someone else needs to take over.Well if he goes, Snyder gets to pick a different coach. Lather, rinse, repeat.

It's more important that they find a way to make these current players work than getting a two week head start on a rebuilding project. And I think it starts with an entirely different approach on defense. Right now, the "prevent big plays" philosophy that Gregg Williams came up with to drag the defense out of the wilderness in 2007 is just giving up extra long drives and preventing the offense from getting any real work out there.

If we're going to be 6-10 this year, I'd like it to be because the offense tried and failed, not because they are stranded on the sideline the whole game.

I think I would react to this loss by seeing if Holmgren would come in as an advisor and release Blache(this may be kneejerk and I reserve the right to rescind this statement by Tuesday) as the sacrificial lamb from this debacle.

I see Holmgren being brought in and Zorn being fired but ill buy that prediction

I think I would react to this loss by seeing if Holmgren would come in as an advisor and release Blache(this may be kneejerk and I reserve the right to rescind this statement by Tuesday) as the sacrificial lamb from this debacle.

Well someone has to get fired....I think Snyder would get hugely popular if he fired Cerrato, but we know that's not going to happen.