Yeah, I may cyber-punch the next person who says 'Joe Gibbs started 0-5'. It's hard because we hadn't had any success since Gibbs, we need to realize the era of Gibbs and the Hogs is long over and done. I really wish Gibbs had not come back because it's like hooking up with a old girlfriend from high school. It seems like a good idea at the time and it's kinda fun, but not as much as the first time and afterwards you realize you were chasing a past you can never recapture. Zorn is rapidly descending into Rich Kotite territory.
Norv Turner...
Redskin Warrior
09-27-2009, 06:31 PM
You can say Campbell didn't play well but he didn't play bad. HE didn't lose the game for us. Our O-line is garbage and our D is horrible. Blache sucks plain and simple.
my point i've been try to make is right now if you replaced any QB with Campbell they would have the same garbage o-line therefore the same results almost. We couldn't block detroit pass rush!!!
SC Skins Fan
09-27-2009, 06:32 PM
Ok, I'm trying to calm down. At this point if I was DS I would bring in Holmgren to act as an advisor to assist Zorn. If Zorn's not having it fire Zorn and let Holmgren take over the team. Keep Orakpo at DE full time, put Wilson at full time SLB and hope we have someone who can spell Wilson at LB periodically, play all our rookie WR's Thomas, Kelly, and Mitchell as much as possible so they are somewhat NFL experienced for next yr. I know Moss was not the problem but I would use him as a situational player only just to give the young guys experience.
Play Collins starting this week. JC is not getting it done. Start looking at other viable options for the right side of the O-line. Either trade out someone or bring someone from outside the team. Play Mason and Alridge for no other reason but to give them experience. Start Barnes, move Landry to SS, and bring in Moore or whoever is a true FS.
Also stop playing players out of their positions like Landry, Orakpo, and so on.
I think that actually sounds like a good prescription. I doubt it happens, but I'd endorse it.
I do not know why I feel compelled to respond, but no it didn't. They beat Detroit 45-0 in the first game and went 11-0 to start the year.
:'(...Well can you blame me for tryin man?
PennSkinsFan
09-27-2009, 06:33 PM
Firing Jim Zorn makes little sense unless Vinny Cerrato goes with him and Dan Snyder completely steps out of football operations. Some here don't want to see that and think some of us are too hard on Snyder, but in his tenth year as owner, things have reached epic failure.
Dirtbag59
09-27-2009, 06:34 PM
Firing Jim Zorn makes little sense unless Vinny Cerrato goes with him and Dan Snyder completely steps out of football operations. Some here don't want to see that and think some of us are too hard on Snyder, but in his tenth year as owner, things have reached epic failure.
lol Snyder will probably hire a crappy GM, then when he fails he'll say "see what happens when I don't get involved."
Ruhskins
09-27-2009, 06:34 PM
Firing Jim Zorn makes little sense unless Vinny Cerrato goes with him and Dan Snyder completely steps out of football operations. Some here don't want to see that and think some of us are too hard on Snyder, but in his tenth year as owner, things have reached epic failure.
Did Vinny hire Zorn and Blache? If so, then yes he must go.
SkinDogg
09-27-2009, 06:35 PM
Okay, so Zorn gets fired. Then what? Other than a scrub wanting to add HC to his resume and pay down some bills, who would want to coach for Mr. Snyder?
SkinDogg
09-27-2009, 06:36 PM
ok heres some confidence...91 started like this too
no confidence.
dmvskinzfan08
09-27-2009, 06:37 PM
my point i've been try to make is right now if you replaced any QB with Campbell they would have the same garbage o-line therefore the same results almost. We couldn't block detroit pass rush!!!
I TOTALY AGREE. When you have O yards rushing in the first half. Usually its on the O-line.
Let me reiterate that. O yard rushing in the first half!!!