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SmootSmack 09-24-2009, 11:22 PM I don't know exact specifics of either's involvement, but I think it's pretty obvious that The Danny is hands-on as far as personnel goes. Blank on the other hand put football decisions in the hands of an actual GM, and got positive results right away. Again, I have no proof, but I'd be willing to bet Blank's involvement pales in comparison to Snyder's.
Trust me, it doesn't. I will say that Blank has done a great job of putting together a solid organization after Petrino, Vick, and Parcells blew up in his face. But he still attends draft workouts, has dinner with potential free agents and draft picks (with Dimitroff and Smith), just like Snyder (and other owners do). But he is involved, yet not intrusive. Just like Snyder, and many other owners.
GMScud 09-24-2009, 11:30 PM Trust me, it doesn't. I will say that Blank has done a great job of putting together a solid organization after Petrino, Vick, and Parcells blew up in his face. But he still attends draft workouts, has dinner with potential free agents and draft picks (with Dimitroff and Smith), just like Snyder (and other owners do). But he is involved, yet not intrusive. Just like Snyder, and many other owners.
Well, I think it's debateable that Snyder isn't intrusive. But I didn't know those points you just made about Blank's involvement. I guess the history of Snyderatto leaves the door wide open for so much skepticism. It's just a hunch, but my gut tells me when it's actually time to pull the trigger on a player, Blank backs off and Snyder... well not so much many cases. Again, purely speculation on my part.
Skinny Tee 09-24-2009, 11:37 PM In Mosley's column about whether Zorn will last the season he recalls another NFC East coach who barely held on to his job after the 06 season. Tom Coughlin went on to coach the Giants to a win in the Super Bowl.
Though that sounds like a great success story for the giants, recreating their success is doubtful.
We have to deal with the parameters in front of us and not rely on patterning our team around the wonderful stories of yesteryear.
Lets bring in a competent staff and have them pattern a competitive scheme for our team instead of patterning our team upon previous success stories.
30gut 09-24-2009, 11:39 PM Why couldn't we just get an offensive coordinator?
That would be too easy
53Fan 09-24-2009, 11:49 PM Though that sounds like a great success story for the giants, recreating their success is doubtful.
We have to deal with the parameters in front of us and not rely on patterning our team around the wonderful stories of yesteryear.
Lets bring in a competent staff and have them pattern a competitive scheme for our team instead of patterning our team upon previous success stories.
I believe that's what we've done. The point is why fire someone before they are given a reasonable chance. I think you're reading a bit much into some of the posts Tee.
Dirtbag59 09-24-2009, 11:53 PM Supposedly Fassell already had an agreement in place to become the head coach and was then kind of not informed officially until it was found out a few days later that he wasn't appointed.
Fassell told the public soon after that he felt like he was slighted by the whole process.
That word drove me crazy during the coaching search last year. Interviewing every candidate under the sun and all we get to hear about is this golden process.
30gut 09-25-2009, 12:46 PM We'd need one of those coaches AND an NFL esteemed GM who'll ask for complete autonomy over personnel and the roster transactions. Then we could at least start from scratch and then gauge our performances just on the field and not outside of it.
I think Cerrato has been doing a good job since he got his new title.
I don't think we need to start from scratch.
There is talent on this team.
Re-tool maybe, re-start-no.
Granted i think that Shanny and Holmgren would be better then Zorn.
But at some point they were in Zorn's shoes and we've got to give Zorn a chance to become a better coach.
30gut 09-25-2009, 12:54 PM C'mon man.
You mean like the 4 games that Holmgren won last year
Seahawks didn't have their starting QB for a good portion of the year.
They lost almost every one of the receivers to a major injury.
-BTW http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:mxVloGR5rTI2_M:http://www.bostonherald.com
or the 8 that Shanahan, like Zorn, won last year?
Elway made Shanahan. He didn't win much of anything after Elway retired.
Denver's defense was a joke!
Shanny had the #4 offense in the league!
-BTW as a HC and as an OChttp://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:mxVloGR5rTI2_M:http://www.bostonherald.com
You can knock these guys for their GMing debacles but there brilliance on the offensive side of the ball is without question.
Chief X_Phackter 09-25-2009, 04:30 PM If these three things didn't happen, no one would be talking about Zorn on a hot seat:
1. Orakpo roughing the passer negating a turnover in Rams territory in the 1st Quarter
2. Thomas drops a TD pass
3. Sellers drops a TD pass
All this talk about play calling, but it's the players that have to execute the plays called. I've watched the game three times, and except for a few plays (critical that they were) I think they played an excellent all around game. The bottom line is they got the W.
Oh yeah, the booooos were uncalled for really. If you were one of the ones booing, stay home.
53Fan 09-25-2009, 04:39 PM If these three things didn't happen, no one would be talking about Zorn on a hot seat:
1. Orakpo roughing the passer negating a turnover in Rams territory in the 1st Quarter
2. Thomas drops a TD pass
3. Sellers drops a TD pass
All this talk about play calling, but it's the players that have to execute the plays called. I've watched the game three times, and except for a few plays (critical that they were) I think they played an excellent all around game. The bottom line is they got the W.
Oh yeah, the booooos were uncalled for really. If you were one of the ones booing, stay home.
Don't forget Santana's fumble inside the Rams 30. The players kept it close.
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