The Redskins Are Close

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Hog1
09-24-2009, 10:51 AM
I think SkinnyTee broke the record for number of posts in one thread.
He's currently speaking of himself on the "third person", and searching for a publicist.......

GTripp0012
09-24-2009, 11:02 AM
I guess Tee is saying it is pretty sad that the apex of Zorns head coaching stint is against the nineteen-straight loss Lions. I dont think it is a matter of what makes one feel comfortable, but rather a matter of fact based on what has been shown so far(this season, preseason and the last 8 games last year).

If the Skins play great next game(all of the sudden), rest of the season and make the playoffs it will be nothing short of a miracle. I really dont see how else to look at it.Well, I mean, it's not really.

The Redskins enter this game with the standard risk for losing to an inferior team. Happens all the time in the NFL. If they fail to score points again, happen to lose the turnover margin and the big play margin, while all the while, the Lions make a big jump as a team from week 2 to week 3, there's a realistic chance the Lions could beat us. But the chance of all that happening is, what, 10-15%?

Now, if the question is: what is the probability that Zorn and the Redskins completely blow the Lions out of the water? I'd say that's only 35-40%. It's hard to generate big plays with new guys on the offensive line, and we may not be able to run the ball on them. Calvin Johnson could always break for a TD unexpectedly. The margin of error to make this a blowout is not very large, and given the uncertainty on offense, probably isn't all that likely.

But how perfect would the Lions have to be to overcome the talent gap? Well, let's just say that if they do win, they'll certainly deserve it.

Monkeydad
09-24-2009, 03:17 PM
It seemed like yesterday we were enduring the August sun and training camp predictions. Anything and everything about Brian Orakapo, Marko Mitchell, or Marcus Mason was newsworthy and commanded our attention. Now two games into the regular season and we're sharply focused on a Redskin team like a couple of know it all interns bickering over how to treat a patient who just got wheeled into the emergency room. While the situation may require medical assistance, what's ailing the patient is not life threatening. Not even close.

I asked myself if I were the fan of another team, who happens to catch all the Redskins games live, what would be my honest assessment of this team and where do I see them going. Because grading something -anything- is difficult when you're so emotionally invested in the outcome. So I'm taking a step back. Where's that damn Paintrain thread when you need it!

I really don't want to rehash the team's epic failures in the red zone, because it's been well documented here and elsewhere. In fact, it's been talked about over and over and over again. I don't think there's one person breathing today that will put more pressure on Jim Zorn this week than Jim Zorn. We saw the offense open up from week one to week two. Coach Zorn just needs to take the next step, and I believe he will.

Besides coach Jim Zorn the other Redskin causing angst among the faithful is Jason Campbell. Right now Campbell is ranked 15th in the NFL in passing. Let me throw a few names out there for perspective. Mark Sanchez, Carson Palmer, and Aaron Rodgers, who by the way, has been sacked 10 times already, all rank below Campbell statistically. For all the critcism he's been receiving, some warranted some not, you would think he's chucking the ball in the air like Jake Delhomme. So let's be a little honest here, Campbell has been solid and probably a little more given the dropped passes he's had at critical moments thus far. I'm not a Jason Campbell apologist, but I sometimes wonder if the tables were turned and Campbell wore another uniform how many trade threads would be requesting for him to come play for Washington so that Zorn can "coach him up."

This team just needs to keep on winning until they find the easy button. If winning ugly is the formula for now, I'll take it. I'd much rather be going into week three bitching and moaning about Zorn than going into week six or seven bitching about Zorn. There's no way Moss will continue to be ineffective that much longer. Especially with the way Cooley and Kelly have started. I think Sellers and Thomas catch those balls next time. And honestly, I don't think losing Randy Thomas will be that big of a deal. He hasn't played a ton of downs over the past few years anyway, and when he has he wasn't exactly dominant, so I don't see any major disruption along the offensive line regardless of who they plug in to replace Thomas.

All of that being said, the Redskins will handle their business in Detroit. I'm not calling for a close game either. The Redskins are 7-2 in indoor facilities in the last six years, including 2004 and 2008 wins over the Lions at Ford Field. The defensive line found another gear last week and should only get better as the season wears on. And I think --hope --Zorn opens up the offense inside the twenty. I won't predict a final score, but I think the Skins by 17 points is doable. From there, I think they finish the season with six losses.

Here's to a big, big win in the Motor City this weekend!

Post of the year. Bravo.

skinsguy
09-24-2009, 05:17 PM
I think a lot is riding upon this game. I want to say that at some point in our Redskins history, immediate history, something has to eventually give. Either the franchise realizes that there are fundamental problems that go deeper than the players themselves that is preventing the team from being an elite team once more, or, realize that they have the talent and the smarts, they just need to go out and do their job. I still think we're close, but close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades!

I want to know for sure if this version of the team is going to be the team we have been waiting for all this time, or is it just going to be a reincarnation of Norv Turner's earlier Redskins teams.

Mechanix544
09-24-2009, 06:40 PM
My sig says it all.

Skinny Tee
09-24-2009, 06:51 PM
My sig says it all.

Hail to the Redskins, HAIL VICTORY!!!!!

MARK MOSELEY RULES!!!!!!

Can you honestly say that when u look at Campbell, you could envision him leading a team to and winning the Super Bowl?? And isn't that what its supposed to be all about?

I agree with 1 of 3 statements listed in your signature.

So by looks we'll be able to tell whether we can envision a QB leading a team to the Super Bowl?

...By looks alone I'd say Peyton Manning probably be better served leading a Special Olympics team than an NFL one but I guess looks can be deceiving

...and have absolutely no bearing on performance.

Lotus
09-24-2009, 06:59 PM
My sig says it all.

I can honestly say that I can envision Campbell taking us to the Super Bowl.

53Fan
09-24-2009, 06:59 PM
Post of the year. Bravo.

It's a damn good one, I'll say that!

53Fan
09-24-2009, 07:07 PM
I agree with 1 of 3 statements listed in your signature.

So by looks we'll be able to tell whether we can envision a QB leading a team to the Super Bowl?

...By looks alone I'd say Peyton Manning probably be better served leading a Special Olympics team than an NFL one but I guess looks can be deceiving

...and have absolutely no bearing on performance.

:doh: I'm ashamed to say I found this funny.....but I did.

Just like Lotus, I can easily see JC taking us to the Super Bowl.

SBXVII
09-24-2009, 10:13 PM
Finally someone who sees it correctly .. it's so annoying how everyone is FREAKING out .. we are 1-1 .. last time I checked it's a bottom line league, bottom line is who didn't think we'd be 1-1 at this point.. yeah the Rams game had issues, but WE WON .. would you rather we lost ? WTF ...the offense does look better than last year .. you have to admit it .. sure we have the RED Zone issues, ummm that is fixable .. it's not like we lost Cooley, Moss, POrtis, etc .. they are all healthy .. Zorn has the pressure .. I firmly believe this is the offense's coming out party this weekend ... finally people will shut the f@#% up about this team and get behind them .. Our DEFENSE is a championship D .. don't be fooled .. they are that good ... let's get the ball rolling on O and the chips will fall where they may ..

Skins BIG THIS WEEKEND !~!!!!!!!!!!!!

Skins 44
Lions 17

Stafford - 3 INTS (1 for TD by HALL) ... 5 SACKS !

I think your score is off....see I think someone high up in the organization is betting we can win with the lowest score. Probably putting a lot of pressure on Zorn. So I think.....

Skins 3....field goal.
Lions 2....Safety.

:)

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