Dallas and Washington are very much alike...

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sandtrapjack
09-23-2009, 02:07 PM
Heres a little difference between us and the cowboys. We've won a playoff game this decade.
Yes, but the way things are, will you ever get the CHANCE to win one again?

I say Nay Nay, unless there are some drastic changes on offensive philosophy.

Valleyranchgirl
09-23-2009, 02:57 PM
I must admit guys and girls, Dallas is better than Washington, they have more talent as a whole and way better coaches, sorry but Zorny is going to be looking for a job come Dec. (And I picked Wash. to win the east). And Romo is a good QB, when he throws 3-4 td's and wins (which he does alot) you love him, so now he sucks! You'r like most of these Sad ass saints fans down here, hop on the wagon when their playing good.

The point of this thread was not Dallas is better than Washington or vice versa. That leads to stupid disagreements and name calling amongst Cowboys and Skin fans which I did not come on here for. Who knew it would take a Saints fan to have the thread go in the wrong direction.

Bandwagon please don't go there with me.You pulled out your Saints gear after two wins this year and decided to see what was happening on the Redskins board, because you probably cheered for the Skins until they didn't score 93 points in the first two games like the Saints have. It would be foolish of me to think that way about you because I don't know you. Don't go making ASSumptions about someone's fan-ship, you just sound bitter in the end.

DBUCHANON101
09-23-2009, 02:59 PM
Skins and Cowboys are nothing alike. please stop this injustice. I think i just threw up in my mouth a little ...ugh

roth74va
09-23-2009, 03:41 PM
Skins and Cowboys are nothing alike. please stop this injustice. I think i just threw up in my mouth a little ...ugh

If you dont want to participate, just move to the next thread. And your attempt at being funny is well.........lame.

jsarno
09-23-2009, 03:46 PM
If you dont want to participate, just move to the next thread. And your attempt at being funny is well.........lame.

everyone likes a dodgeball reference. haha

jsarno
09-23-2009, 03:54 PM
Nice break down and observation on Campbell and Romo.

When you compare Romo to Campbell you would think Romo was a guy that was more than a stat whore. Personally I see Romo as someone who has had talent surrounding him since day 1. The Oline, RB, WR's(terry glenn, TO) and TE have been amongst the top 5 or have been very productive at their position at some point since he has been the QB. Campbell has not had that luxury. Moss is good but Randell El was never much IMO. Clinton is a good RB but he can't do it alone. Maybe I don't watch skin games but how many big plays does Portis make in the 4th quarter? Barber bails Romo out, many times. He is a luxury for Dallas and should be named one of the leaders. Felix is just going to get better with every touch. Do you forsee Campbell getting traded right after Zorn is gone(because he is as good as gone)? Some players can practice all week and not get it right in the game time. Maybe Campbell has that problem. I think Romo has that problem because he knows to stop making those bonehead plays, but he is like the scarecrow when its crunch time in big games.

You are right on everything except why Romo makes those "bonehead" plays. He does it cause no one really stops him. The Cowboys are ok with those plays as long as he comes back and throws that TD, ala Favre. Romo takes chances, and when you do, some will come back to bite you. There is no doubt Romo needs to get smarter and less aggressive, just as there is no doubt Campbell needs to get smarter and take some more chances.

When do people stop harping about arm strength if the QB is not accurate? Cutler is accurate, strong arm. Russell, Vick, and Campbell not so much.

I have wondered this for years. Especially when people here said Patrick Ramsey was a stud when all he had was a strong arm. Arm strength should be looked at to determine a good qb, but it should not be in the top 3 when evaluating his role at the next level.
Gotta say, I am a bit taken back by the reference of Campbell to Russell and Vick...but not sure where to argue at this time, or just take that punch to the gut and realize Campbell is a piece of poo like those other two.

Mechanix544
09-23-2009, 04:05 PM
Well, maybe SOME people are waking up. Campbell just isnt the QB to get us to that next level, and succeed at it. He HIMSELF has no next level, just a horribly average QB, goiong thru the motions, with a tendency to not win games, but also to not hand them away. For your team to win,(Look at NE - Brady, NY - Manning, Indy - Manning, Pitt - Rothlisberger) you just have to have your QB make strong plays and actually IMPACT the game in which he is playing. Being a nonfactor and not making plays is NOT the way to win, I'm just wondering when EVERYONE is gonna wake up and realize that Jason Campbells best has already been seen, and frankly, its not good enough. Nowhere close to being enough.

jsarno
09-23-2009, 04:28 PM
Well, maybe SOME people are waking up. Campbell just isnt the QB to get us to that next level, and succeed at it. He HIMSELF has no next level, just a horribly average QB, goiong thru the motions, with a tendency to not win games, but also to not hand them away. For your team to win,(Look at NE - Brady, NY - Manning, Indy - Manning, Pitt - Rothlisberger) you just have to have your QB make strong plays and actually IMPACT the game in which he is playing. Being a nonfactor and not making plays is NOT the way to win, I'm just wondering when EVERYONE is gonna wake up and realize that Jason Campbells best has already been seen, and frankly, its not good enough. Nowhere close to being enough.

I agree with you...it's cause people WANT Campbell to succeed, and each has their own personal reason for this, but a lot like his calm exterior demeanor and good arm strength. I don't know about you, but to me, I want the guy that wants the ball and to be firey about it. Staying calm under pressure does not mean you can't get excited and intense. Peyton Manning stays cool under pressure, but he is INTENSE! Campbell has NO intensity and you WON'T win with no intensity.
I'm ready for another QB right now, and I was not like this before the Giants game.

skinsfan69
09-23-2009, 04:59 PM
Well their defense gives up a lot of points. How is that different from a team that doesn't score much but has a defense that doesn't allow that many points?

not that much different. but their defense hasn't been bad for several years and our offense has been.

skinsfan69
09-23-2009, 05:04 PM
I agree with you...it's cause people WANT Campbell to succeed, and each has their own personal reason for this, but a lot like his calm exterior demeanor and good arm strength. I don't know about you, but to me, I want the guy that wants the ball and to be firey about it. Staying calm under pressure does not mean you can't get excited and intense. Peyton Manning stays cool under pressure, but he is INTENSE! Campbell has NO intensity and you WON'T win with no intensity.
I'm ready for another QB right now, and I was not like this before the Giants game.

eli manning seems to be getting the job done with the same type of personality that jc has.

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