Dallas and Washington are very much alike...

jsarno and VRG, you guys don't know how nice it is to hear from both sides A: dallas fan that doesn't think they are going to go undefeated the rest of the year and SB bound and B:skins fan who realizes that it is only week 2 and there is still ALOT of fubball left!

In order for a running back to gain yards he must have a hole to run through. Our O-line is doing okay in passing situations but in running situations not so much. Dallas are deep at RB and this has been a big topic in the off season about our RB dpeth and talent. But that is neither here nor their. But Portis is still a better RB than Barber. Our like is not creating holes. For him or anyone else. Barber would have the same results if he was here. When CP did get a good hole the first game. he took it 30+ yards. But we need more of that type of run blocking. Your not sold on CP. He is not a rookie he has been producing since he got in the league.

Your right we have a short leash on Campbell. he is not allowed to throw caution to the wind. He has been trained that way by Gibbs to manage a game not win it. Zorn is easing him in slowly. But if he was to make mistakes liek Romo or Cutler. He wouldn't last in "our" organization. This kid has little room for error. Also the most unconventional grooming of a QB I ever seen. The season is young. Portis and JC will produce. Atleast we are progressing every week. If we dont do that then its time to worry.


At this point in their careers, Barber is better than Portis. Portis had HUGE holes to run through during the first half of last year and couldn't muster a run longer than 31 yards. Now if you want to blame downfield blocking, go ahead. But the holes were there at the line of scrimmage, so don't blame the O line. Everyone likes to point to Portis' EOY yardage totals, but he benefits from being a "feature back", which is something you you rarely see these days. There are lots of talented RBs that would have similar or better numbers if their coaches were stupid enough to give them the ball 342 times. So far this year, Barber's averaging 6.3 yards per carry. He's faster, a better receiver, more elusive, harder to bring down and can score from anywhere on the field. That said, I like Portis a lot, just not for the price tag. I also respect everything he does for the ball club, particularly his blocking and durability, and think he's the least of our problems and probably the best thing we have going for us Offensively. I don't think Barber is head and shoulders better that Portis, but I do think he's better.

And I'll take Romo over Campbell any day. Romo may choke once he gets to the playoffs, but at least he gets there, which is more than anyone can say for Campbell. Yes, Romo throws Ints, but he also throws a lot of TDs. I would much rather have his TD to INT ratio over the last 2 season than Campbell's (and I won't even bother with yardage and I could give a damn about QB ratings):

Romo:
2008 - 26 TDs and 14 INTs
2007 - 36TDs and 19 INTs

Campbell:
2008 - 13 TDs and 6 INTs
2007 - 12 TDs and 11 INTs

As for Campbell being hamstrung by Zorn, when he does get a chance to throw deep, it's been woefully inaccurate and just plain ugly. The deep pass to Moss against the Giants wasn't even close, the first pass of the game against the Rams should have been an EASY TD, but Campbell underthrew it. On the same route but to DT, he threw the ball 5 yards out of bounds and on an attempted bomb to the end zone, he almost threw it in the first row of the stands. He's not shown that he can even get the ball close on deep passes this season, so maybe that's why Zorn isn't "taking the reigns off". I've also said a few times that I get the sense that Campbell is petrified to throw into single coverage unless his receiver has 2-3 steps on the defender, while we see WRs making plays all over the league with defenders draped all over them. 4 things can happen - INT, Completion, Incompletion, Pass Interference. 3 of the 4 ain't that bad, so why not throw the damn ball. I could be wrong, but that's how it looks from where I'm sitting.

Lastly, I think Zorn is deranged if he's totally pleased with what he saw between the 20s against the Rams. They can not continue to plod down the field taking 15 plays to get to the Red Zone. They had only 7 friggin possessions against the Rams. They need to find a way to get down the field every now and again in 5 or so plays and, of course, they need to get the ball into the end zone.

Good news is that both are not impossible to correct, and the next 4 games couldn't be a better opportunity for the Skins to fix what ails them. For the record, I hate Dallas and will never root for anyone but the Skins, especially the Ravens from that one-horse town of Baltimore.

EOM

This thread is so wrong.

Blasphemy

I really want to agree with you but if I'm being objective, the only true talent on Dallas's offense lies with Witten and MAYBE Barber.

Your insane! Felix jones is a beast and Bennett is really good also, not to mention their wrs actually score tds... Dallas is better than us as an overall team, yea our d is better but they make up when scoring 30 pts a game. Our offense is sad!

At this point in their careers, Barber is better than Portis. Portis had HUGE holes to run through during the first half of last year and couldn't muster a run longer than 31 yards. Now if you want to blame downfield blocking, go ahead. But the holes were there at the line of scrimmage, so don't blame the O line. Everyone likes to point to Portis' EOY yardage totals, but he benefits from being a "feature back", which is something you you rarely see these days. There are lots of talented RBs that would have similar or better numbers if their coaches were stupid enough to give them the ball 342 times. So far this year, Barber's averaging 6.3 yards per carry. He's faster, a better receiver, more elusive, harder to bring down and can score from anywhere on the field. That said, I like Portis a lot, just not for the price tag. I also respect everything he does for the ball club, particularly his blocking and durability, and think he's the least of our problems and probably the best thing we have going for us Offensively. I don't think Barber is head and shoulders better that Portis, but I do think he's better.

And I'll take Romo over Campbell any day. Romo may choke once he gets to the playoffs, but at least he gets there, which is more than anyone can say for Campbell. Yes, Romo throws Ints, but he also throws a lot of TDs. I would much rather have his TD to INT ratio over the last 2 season than Campbell's (and I won't even bother with yardage and I could give a damn about QB ratings):

Romo:
2008 - 26 TDs and 14 INTs
2007 - 36TDs and 19 INTs

Campbell:
2008 - 13 TDs and 6 INTs
2007 - 12 TDs and 11 INTs

As for Campbell being hamstrung by Zorn, when he does get a chance to throw deep, it's been woefully inaccurate and just plain ugly. The deep pass to Moss against the Giants wasn't even close, the first pass of the game against the Rams should have been an EASY TD, but Campbell underthrew it. On the same route but to DT, he threw the ball 5 yards out of bounds and on an attempted bomb to the end zone, he almost threw it in the first row of the stands. He's not shown that he can even get the ball close on deep passes this season, so maybe that's why Zorn isn't "taking the reigns off". I've also said a few times that I get the sense that Campbell is petrified to throw into single coverage unless his receiver has 2-3 steps on the defender, while we see WRs making plays all over the league with defenders draped all over them. 4 things can happen - INT, Completion, Incompletion, Pass Interference. 3 of the 4 ain't that bad, so why not throw the damn ball. I could be wrong, but that's how it looks from where I'm sitting.

Lastly, I think Zorn is deranged if he's totally pleased with what he saw between the 20s against the Rams. They can not continue to plod down the field taking 15 plays to get to the Red Zone. They had only 7 friggin possessions against the Rams. They need to find a way to get down the field every now and again in 5 or so plays and, of course, they need to get the ball into the end zone.

Good news is that both are not impossible to correct, and the next 4 games couldn't be a better opportunity for the Skins to fix what ails them. For the record, I hate Dallas and will never root for anyone but the Skins, especially the Ravens from that one-horse town of Baltimore.

EOM

Nice break down and observation on Campbell and Romo.

When you compare Romo to Campbell you would think Romo was a guy that was more than a stat whore. Personally I see Romo as someone who has had talent surrounding him since day 1. The Oline, RB, WR's(terry glenn, TO) and TE have been amongst the top 5 or have been very productive at their position at some point since he has been the QB. Campbell has not had that luxury. Moss is good but Randell El was never much IMO. Clinton is a good RB but he can't do it alone. Maybe I don't watch skin games but how many big plays does Portis make in the 4th quarter? Barber bails Romo out, many times. He is a luxury for Dallas and should be named one of the leaders. Felix is just going to get better with every touch. Do you forsee Campbell getting traded right after Zorn is gone(because he is as good as gone)? Some players can practice all week and not get it right in the game time. Maybe Campbell has that problem. I think Romo has that problem because he knows to stop making those bonehead plays, but he is like the scarecrow when its crunch time in big games.

When do people stop harping about arm strength if the QB is not accurate? Cutler is accurate, strong arm. Russell, Vick, and Campbell not so much.

Nice break down and observation on Campbell and Romo.

When you compare Romo to Campbell you would think Romo was a guy that was more than a stat whore. Personally I see Romo as someone who has had talent surrounding him since day 1. The Oline, RB, WR's(terry glenn, TO) and TE have been amongst the top 5 or have been very productive at their position at some point since he has been the QB. Campbell has not had that luxury. Moss is good but Randell El was never much IMO. Clinton is a good RB but he can't do it alone. Maybe I don't watch skin games but how many big plays does Portis make in the 4th quarter? Barber bails Romo out, many times. He is a luxury for Dallas and should be named one of the leaders. Felix is just going to get better with every touch. Do you forsee Campbell getting traded right after Zorn is gone(because he is as good as gone)? Some players can practice all week and not get it right in the game time. Maybe Campbell has that problem. I think Romo has that problem because he knows to stop making those bonehead plays, but he is like the scarecrow when its crunch time in big games.

When do people stop harping about arm strength if the QB is not accurate? Cutler is accurate, strong arm. Russell, Vick, and Campbell not so much.

I must admit guys and girls, Dallas is better than Washington, they have more talent as a whole and way better coaches, sorry but Zorny is going to be looking for a job come Dec. (And I picked Wash. to win the east). And Romo is a good QB, when he throws 3-4 td's and wins (which he does alot) you love him, so now he sucks! You'r like most of these Sad ass saints fans down here, hop on the wagon when their playing good.

Your insane! Felix jones is a beast and Bennett is really good also, not to mention their wrs actually score tds... Dallas is better than us as an overall team, yea our d is better but they make up when scoring 30 pts a game. Our offense is sad!

I agree 100%, Felix is a stud and their Offense is one of the best in the league.. Of course my Saints are better but that's another topic lol. When you compare the Cowboys-Redskins offenses, it's like saying 1 Million dollars is better than 1Billion lol, sorry but you guys can't score. 10 PTS vs Ny (fake fg isn't offense) and 9 Pts vs STL WOW, Dallas would score 40+ on STL. If the skins win 8 games, I will be surprised.

You guys are kidding me right?

18 games into Zorns tenure and in the wins the margin of victory was less then 10 points in every win. Only 2 of those wins margin was even 7 points or more.

Last week in front of the home crowd, the Redskins get INSIDE THE RAMS 10 yard line FOUR times in the game, and come up with only 3 FG's for the game?

Friends and neighbors, a good bar arguement comparing defenses would have merit. But to compare offenses with these 2 teams is simply a waste of time.

Heres a little difference between us and the cowboys. We've won a playoff game this decade.