The only two Good Decisions Jim Zorn Made vs St. Louis

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Beemnseven
09-23-2009, 02:42 PM
To think, the Wildcat technically began here with the Redskins with Norv Turner and Brian Mitchell. We are the birthplace of the Wildcat

Elaborate please? Are you referring to the option play in Denver with Brian Mitchell back in 1995?

According to the Monday Night broadcast, David Lee, who is the Dolphins' QB coach, brought the Wildcat over from his days as QB coach/offensive coordinator of the Arkansas Razorbacks.

One might even be able to make the argument that the Wildcat actually began with Joe Gibbs and Brian Mitchell in the "Bodybag Game" back in '90. Mitchell took over at QB and took many direct snaps in that game.

DBUCHANON101
09-23-2009, 02:56 PM
The Wildcat is actually the Single Wing Offense that was used way back when teams like Princeton and Notre Dame were wearing leather helmets and winning titles. My youth football team runs the Single Wing. I tell the kids its the Wildcat to make them want to learn it because they hear about it on tv.

Beemnseven
09-23-2009, 03:00 PM
One of the things the Wildcat does is make defenses account for the QB -- effectively making it 11 vs. 11, instead of 10 vs. 11 in a traditional offensive set where the QB is not a factor after the ball is out of his hands.

SmootSmack
09-23-2009, 03:01 PM
Elaborate please? Are you referring to the option play in Denver with Brian Mitchell back in 1995?

According to the Monday Night broadcast, David Lee, who is the Dolphins' QB coach, brought the Wildcat over from his days as QB coach/offensive coordinator of the Arkansas Razorbacks.

One might even be able to make the argument that the Wildcat actually began with Joe Gibbs and Brian Mitchell in the "Bodybag Game" back in '90. Mitchell took over at QB and took many direct snaps in that game.

Well I think it was actually Gus Malzahn at Arkansas who introduced the Wildcat to the Razorbacks. I can't remember where I saw this, but I remember Malzahn saying that when he saw Norv Turner put Mitchell in single-wing (Wildcat) formations he know it could work at a college/pro level. Up until then it was only at the high school level. I'll look for a link

SmootSmack
09-23-2009, 03:02 PM
So I should say the Wildcat at an NFL level "began" with Norv (who still blows as a head coach)

DBUCHANON101
09-23-2009, 03:10 PM
"What would happen if someone came out with a single-wing offense? It would embarrass the hell out of us." -Vince Lombardi

Even back then, Vince knew that this offense was hard to defend and if a pro team ever used it they would be successful.

Mechanix544
09-23-2009, 03:52 PM
I just can't see the rationale behind going for it on fourth down after all game we've been doing the same exact thing and getting stopped. Between risking that or making it a FG and forcing the rams into having to make a TD, with the play of our defense, which is btw the only reason we won the game, why wouldnt you rest the game on their shoulders? They are the bunch that proved themselves, not the O. But if you are gonna go for it, QUIT RUNNING THE SAME EXACT PLAY TO THE SAME EXACT SIDE.

Zorn is an idiot, period.

Slingin Sammy 33
09-23-2009, 04:20 PM
I'm definitely not advocating an in-season change, I was speaking more about an off-season change. And, again, the whole thing about Zorn being close to being fired had they lost to the Eagles last year was about letting him go in the off-season. Not immediately after the game.
Gotcha. The thing that got me was that Snyder would be ready to can Zorn after 1 season (in which we showed some real promise early on). That's not good. I don't see how Snyder could rationally attribute the second half collapse to Zorn. That's some wishy-washy doo-doo IMO.

DBUCHANON101
09-23-2009, 04:33 PM
Bottomline, we all know DS hired Zorn when all other options either turned him down or wanted time off. Zorn is not his first choice to be the HC of his team. He will look for any reason to let him go this season or after so he can bring in a big name like Holmgren,Shanahan,Cowher or Dungy.
It sucks but this is the reality of the situation IMO.

jsarno
09-23-2009, 04:43 PM
I think Cowher is coming, there are many reasons why i believe this.
IMO..Zorn was hired out of necessity, other top candidates turned DS down -Spagnuolo- and others wanted time off before they come back. -Cowher,Shanahan and Holmgren-
Zorn was supposed to fix the offense, still waiting. 0-4
Zorn was never an OC so its not like he ever gameplanned vs an opponent.
MAINLY--Zorn doesnt tust his players and it reflects in his playcalling.
I think a tough,in your face HC is EXACTLY what this team needs. How many passes do you think Tana will drop if he has to go to the sideline and deal with Cowher in his face/grill? -whatever your pref- Same with dropped int's,fumbles,missed tackles,bad throws and missed blocks.

Harsh post, but right on.

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