Would you rather be 0-2

well I'm not sold on the pats I think people live in the past too often. They should've lost to the Bills and they got dominated by the jets(but they're still sb contenders). The reason why the Redskins never get national respect is because there own fans dont technically respect them. This is a NEW yr and I believe this was just our hiccup game. Defense great. 20 to 20 great. Turnovers great. Special Teams great. So we have 14wks left and all we need to worry about is rdzne offense. I'll take that

Well I will say that the Redskins need to earn that national respect...the Pats get respect because of their Superbowl wins, and people don't criticize them much (although they were a McElvin fumble away from being 0-2).

I think a number of Skins fans love to hate the team. I mean there are posters that have nothing but negative things to say about the team.

Most people will say...well we won, it's a W, the team and the coaching staff have issues that need to be dealt soon if they want to continue to win, and this is how they should do it. And then there are the mindless rants about how we suck (and that's basically all they say).

well I'm not sold on the pats I think people live in the past too often. They should've lost to the Bills and they got dominated by the jets(but they're still sb contenders). The reason why the Redskins never get national respect is because there own fans dont technically respect them. This is a NEW yr and I believe this was just our hiccup game. Defense great. 20 to 20 great. Turnovers great. Special Teams great. So we have 14wks left and all we need to worry about is rdzne offense. I'll take that

Thats all fine and dandy, how long have you been a fan? This is not a rusty start of a season, this is how we play regardless of our opponent. The patriots are proven winners, we haven't had a dominant year in 18 years. So when we beat one of the worst teams in the NFL 9-7 at home while completely healthy then yes there is going to be a lot of pessimism.

That being said, a win is a win. I guess. Right now every game in this next stretch of lesser opponents is must win.

Redskins have the greatest fans, we don't get respect because we probably have the worst primtime/monday night record in last 20 years. Lets blow some people out for a change, and start next week. :)

I would rather be 0-2 if it got Zorn fired/demoted and replaced by Mike Holmgren.

Otherwise, no, 1-1 is better than 0-2. And, realistically, when we looked at the schedule when it was first released, atleast 90% of us thought we'd have a win over the Rams and a loss to the Giants at this point in the season. So, we're right where I, and most of us, thought we'd be - I just didnt think our offense would be this bad and Zorn would continue to challenge Steve Spurrier as the worst head coach the skins have had in my lifetime.

I would rather be 0-2 if it got Zorn fired/demoted and replaced by Mike Holmgren.

Otherwise, no, 1-1 is better than 0-2. And, realistically, when we looked at the schedule when it was first released, atleast 90% of us thought we'd have a win over the Rams and a loss to the Giants at this point in the season. So, we're right where I, and most of us, thought we'd be - I just didnt think our offense would be this bad and Zorn would continue to challenge Steve Spurrier as the worst head coach the skins have had in my lifetime.
There is no firing a head coach at this point and having anything good come out of it this year. Lets have a little faith and hope for the best. We are still in the playoff hunt.

I'm surprised nobody has brought up parallels with the many Ravens teams that had anemic offenses and pretty much won due to defense and Matt Stover.

I'm surprised nobody has brought up parallels with the many Ravens teams that had anemic offenses and pretty much won due to defense and Matt Stover.

As much as I tend to be optimistic (sp?) we don't have nearly as good of a defense as those Ravens.

Dang some of you guys should just go slide down a razor into a bottle of alcohol, or just jab a pencil in your eye, maybe have a friend kick you between the legs. We won nothing else we can do but watch and enjoy the rest of the season. There are alot of things I could sit around and bitch about with the skins but what good does that do? Nothing, life is to dam short to get all mad over a win at that.

It's not an either or situation. Would you rather have a dirt sandwich or a kick to the groin? Me, I'll take steak & eggs thank you very much. Until these guys start shitting out Tiffany cuff-links then they're going to get ragged on, strait up. The fans are fed up.

Agreed about what history says. Speaking of history, going to back the second half of last season, we're 3-7, and seem to have all of the same problems with nearly identical personnel. Turnovers are few, sacks seem awfully tough to come by, we can't score touchdowns to save our lives, and we have an old, injury prone O-line with terrible depth.

I was listening to 980am today on the way home from BWI, and I've spent the last hour or so reading this board. I've seen and heard a bunch of "it's only 2 games" comments. It's not 2 games, it's 10. No more excuses. Kevin Sheehan said how "we're so close to finding those game changing sacks and turnovers," and "getting hung up on only scoring 9 points is a shortsighted view." I strongly disagree. The time is now. This current regime has had 9 preseason and 18 regular season games to figure it out, and it's not coming together.

I'm SO SICK of hearing crap like, "gosh our offense can really move the ball, but..." No more buts. We don't score. We just don't. Points win games, not yards. It needs to change right away.

I think Zorn's leash can be measured in inches, not feet right now. Get it together or get out JZ. My patience is gone.

we won didn't we?

last year at the end of the season, we were not moving the ball effectively, especially, from the 50 to the 20, and Zorn in the offseason said he was focusing on fixing that. we moved the ball effectively in both games in that area of the field.

I would call it medium rare right now. a little more seasoning, and we might get some well done out of it.

we won didn't we?

last year at the end of the season, we were not moving the ball effectively, especially, from the 50 to the 20, and Zorn in the offseason said he was focusing on fixing that. we moved the ball effectively in both games in that area of the field.

I would call it medium rare right now. a little more seasoning, and we might get some well done out of it.I think it was you that mentioned this before, but there's a big difference between an offense that sees it's long drives fizzle out on the edge of FG range, and one that gets inside the ten before things fall apart.

The difference, of course, is that in spite of the playcalling, the Redskins got three throws into the end zone yesterday (1 of them by Portis), and had a 0% success rate. Keep getting 3-5 throws into the end zone a game and we're going to beat a lot of teams.

Last year, we usually had one or two drives into the red zone in a game, and thusly, 20 points would have been a solid effort. Now, we're on the verge of 3 TDs a game, and while that doesn't sound like much, it's the difference between 16 PPG (1 TD, 3 FG) and 24 PPG (3 TD, 1 FG), if we execute.

The point is we didn't just make it inside the red zone 4 times, we made it inside the ten 4 times.