Defensive Review: Giants

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GTripp0012
09-18-2009, 05:24 PM
I saw somewhere that our defense had the highest percentage of 3 and outs in the NFL, or something like that. Just thought I would throw that in thereFactually correct. They also did it against a schedule that included 4 of the top 5 quarterbacks at three and outs.

I think: Fitzpatrick, Anderson, Hasselbeck, and...I want to say Bulger but that might not be right.

If we can keep getting ~2 turnovers a game, I think we'll be fine in the long run. If this game ends up being an anomaly turnover-wise, we'll probably struggle all year.

FRPLG
09-18-2009, 05:41 PM
We only had 10 offensive possessions, and in that, 2 turnovers is certainly not good, but the Giants only had EIGHT offensive possessions, and two ended in turnovers, one in a turnover on downs, with four scoring drives and a single punt. Turning the ball over on 25% of drives is completely inexcusable. Even 20% (for us) was pretty bad.

I felt like our defense just couldn't get itself off the field a few too many times. Hence the only 8 possessions for the Gints. They had a few long time-consuming drives I think that took possessions away from our offense and killed field position, again limiting what we could do on offense. I really felt our D had a big hand in the lack of offense.

GTripp0012
09-18-2009, 05:59 PM
I felt like our defense just couldn't get itself off the field a few too many times. Hence the only 8 possessions for the Gints. They had a few long time-consuming drives I think that took possessions away from our offense and killed field position, again limiting what we could do on offense. I really felt our D had a big hand in the lack of offense.Prepare to defend yourself against completely backwards logic like: "it's because the offense sucks."

"Because the offense sucks...the defense can't get off the field?"

"No, the defense is tired because the offense sucks"

"But, that doesn't even make sense. I was talking about how the Giants had such an obsurdly low number of possessions. That has nothing to do with the offense."

"Campbell is the problem."

SmootSmack
09-18-2009, 06:05 PM
Prepare to defend yourself against completely backwards logic like: "it's because the offense sucks."

"Because the offense sucks...the defense can't get off the field?"

"No, the defense is tired because the offense sucks"

"But, that doesn't even make sense. I was talking about how the Giants had such an obsurdly low number of possessions. That has nothing to do with the offense."

"Campbell is the problem."

All of which are ridiculous points when we know the real problem is "We have a racist nickname"

GTripp0012
09-18-2009, 06:07 PM
All of which are ridiculous points when we know the real problem is "We have a racist nickname"Exactly! If it's an air attack you want, then we should be the Washington Rockets.

Our primitive defensive scheme is clearly a function of our nickname.

RedBar
09-18-2009, 06:17 PM
Bingo. A sure sign of a charlatan if you ask me. If you want to watch a real defensive coordinator at work watch the Jets play (or put on some tape of the Redskins in 2004 or 2007). So glad that shotgun was so effective in convincing Blache to unretire. Now the dude won't go away and he's armed.

Was he a good DC last year or is all this charlatan stuff born out of week 1?

SmootSmack
09-18-2009, 06:22 PM
Was he a good DC last year or is all this charlatan stuff born out of week 1?

Do you think a lot of the criticism towards Blache could also be due to higher expectations of the defense at this point than the offense? Also, do you think he has the players he wants? I mean he has talented players, but are they the guys he wants for the most part?

Hog1
09-18-2009, 06:32 PM
Exactly! If it's an air attack you want, then we should be the Washington Rockets.

Our primitive defensive scheme is clearly a function of our nickname.
I think you if you search your conscience, you will find "Rockets" is a lethal weapon capable of taking human life......like Bullets. Perhaps good judgement would dictate another name that would symbolize the thrust of the meaning in a.....non-threatening and offensive way?

Washington Dirigibles?
Washington Hindenburgs?

SmootSmack
09-18-2009, 06:44 PM
I think you if you search your conscience, you will find "Rockets" is a lethal weapon capable of taking human life......like Bullets. Perhaps good judgement would dictate another name that would symbolize the thrust of the meaning in a.....non-threatening and offensive way?

Washington Dirigibles?
Washington Hindenburgs?

Oh the humanity!!!!

The Washington Robins

-Robins can fly
-Robins are red, so we could even be the Red Robins
-Robins often symbolize the start of spring, and everyone is happy at the first signs of spring
-Robin, as in Batman and Robin, defenders of justice. Everyone likes when justice is defended
-Robin, as in Robin Leach of Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous, a staple of the 1980s. 1980s=Redskins dominance
-Robin, as in Robin Wright Penn, star of The Princess Bride. Hilarious movie, and who doesn't like to laugh?

RedBar
09-18-2009, 08:11 PM
Do you think a lot of the criticism towards Blache could also be due to higher expectations of the defense at this point than the offense? Also, do you think he has the players he wants? I mean he has talented players, but are they the guys he wants for the most part?


No doubt the pressure is greater with the addition of high profile players and we will have to wait and see how this defense stacks up to previous years, but anyone can see how expectations are high. Still it is amazing that only in football can you have forty or fifty years of success and accomplishment and be a charlatan after a week one loss to a pretty good football team. Or maybe these coaches have been fooling all these GM's and owners into thinking they actually know something about offense or defense.

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