Defensive Review: Giants

I was think these are great stats but when dealing with stats espically in a anaylsis type format you need bench marks. Maybe numbers we think that are horrible really league wide are acceptable when comparing other teams. Probably way too much work in order to do that but just a thought.

Thanks GTripp for doing this it is a lot of work! DC Sports Report should pick this up and put in their news letter.

Nice break down, i love these threads.

What is there this year that was not last year is the pass pressure. The Redskins forced Eli Manning into two or three mistake throws, and they did it by getting pressure on the quarterback. The two best edge pass rushers on the Redskins are Lorenzo Alexander and Andre Carter, but Chris Wilson and Orakpo are also threats to the quarterback's health. Some insiders I have talked to are disappointed that the Redskins pass rush isn't more consistently effective, but I think that's just the nature of pass rush. We think of a pass rush such as the Giants in Super Bowl 42 just pounding the quarterback consistently, but there's a reason that there isn't a more recent example of "consistent" pass rush.
1st half observations:

The pass rush and the use of Orakpo dissappointed me.

I like a rube believed the talk of Orakpo 'blitzing' on 1st and 2nd downs.
Orakpo and Wilson spent alot of team reading and reacting taking on blocks and covering TEs then i was hoping for.

What i really didn't like was the times when Orakpo was matched up with Boss when Boss didn't go out in a pattern he stayed in to block and Orkapo didn't ass rush he just shadowed Boss at the line

There were a few times when we were in Cover 2 the secondary did its job and Eli wasn't able to throw in rhythm but pass rush didn't get to him and Eli was able to make a play.

Rogers pass break-up on 2&10 came against Cover 2

I would love to see us get pressure with a 4 man rush and sit back in Cover 2 sometimes.
When we're in Cover 2 i think Orakpo should be at DE no matter what the down.

It seemed like Carter was getting stood up alot.

What wasn't adequate was the Redskins coverage against secondary and tertiary Giant receivers,

My thoughts on the secondary from the 1st half:

Didn't like/understand off coverage in the RZ near the goalline with Orakpo covering a hook zone.

Landry=0
I thought that Landry was making good reads and breaking downhill on some routes but was just a hair late and it was the difference between a pass break-up and interception and a catch. (1st qtr 3rd and 6 catch to Smith and 3rd and 6 catch to Manningham) A couple unforced missed tackles a nice clean up tackle for no gain or a loss on crucial down and a TD saving tackle on Bradshaw.
Horton=+
Horton had decent coverage on Boss but Boss made a nice catch.
Horton made a nice read and was all over Manningham on the same pass play where Landry is late on Steve Smith (1st qtr 3rd and 6)
I wonder if Horton instincts are always this good when he's in zone covergae?

Horton of course made his presence felt in the run game.

Rogers= +
Smoot=- I was surprised by Smoot he played well in the preseason especially against the Pats and i thought he was getting ready for a good season, i hope he bounces back
Hall=-- I know he can play better then he played
poor tackling, poor coverage

Blitzin' Greg Blache

I detest Blaches blitz schemes.

Haynesworth is a beast 3rd and short 4th and short i wish the cameran men would zoom in and really focus on the trench wars sometimes.
Its no wonder the dude is needs a blow sometimes he fighting2 dudes almost every play!

Overall I felt like there were to many missed tackles and that our guys weren't shedding/avoiding their blocks well.
Pass rush was a little late in coming on and the secondary play was spotty.

I think its all fixable though.
...except for the blitz schemes

Great stuff again. Thanks Tripp!

Let's see if I got this straight. In the offensive review, our resident experts tell us that Zorn was outcoached by the Giants' DC and, in the defensive review, they tell us that Blache was outcoached by the Giants' OC. Meanwhile, we're picking apart every mistake the players make.

If it's true that we were outcoached on both sides of the ball, let's hope that doesn't become a trend because, if the coaches can't put the players in positions where they are likely to succeed, we won't have a snowball's chance of making the playoffs.

The 4-3 is best i believe against the run. Especially with a 330 DT like Hworth...

Let's see if I got this straight. In the offensive review, our resident experts tell us that Zorn was outcoached by the Giants' DC and, in the defensive review, they tell us that Blache was outcoached by the Giants' OC. Meanwhile, we're picking apart every mistake the players make.

If it's true that we were outcoached on both sides of the ball, let's hope that doesn't become a trend because, if the coaches can't put the players in positions where they are likely to succeed, we won't have a snowball's chance of making the playoffs.

I get what you're saying...I don't think we're gettng out-coached on O. I think our coaching staff is so scared of pressure that it has really inhibited their play-calling. They need to just grow a set and start calling plays without concern for protection. We can either protect and run a good offense or we can hide in a shell and run a crap offense. Hiding in a shell wins us 10 games tops if everything works out perfectly (a good defense, adequate teams and some luck on O).

I get what you're saying...I don't think we're gettng out-coached on O. I think our coaching staff is so scared of pressure that it has really inhibited their play-calling. They need to just grow a set and start calling plays without concern for protection. We can either protect and run a good offense or we can hide in a shell and run a crap offense. Hiding in a shell wins us 10 games tops if everything works out perfectly (a good defense, adequate teams and some luck on O).I don't think Blache necessarily got outcoached on Sunday either. There were bad calls, yes, but I thought he got out-Blached by Kevin Gilbride (Giants O Coordinator). He called a lot of plays into our defensive strengths, and despite having automatic completions out on the field, they were only 6/12 on converting third downs.

We only had 10 offensive possessions, and in that, 2 turnovers is certainly not good, but the Giants only had EIGHT offensive possessions, and two ended in turnovers, one in a turnover on downs, with four scoring drives and a single punt. Turning the ball over on 25% of drives is completely inexcusable. Even 20% (for us) was pretty bad.

I don't think Blache necessarily got outcoached on Sunday either. There were bad calls, yes, but I thought he got out-Blached by Kevin Gilbride (Giants O Coordinator). He called a lot of plays into our defensive strengths, and despite having automatic completions out on the field, they were only 6/12 on converting third downs.Allowing 50% on 3rd down conversion is poor. For Week 1 nfl.com has us at #25 at 46% (6/13). For the 2008 season, average teams were at 39-40%, 46% would put us at #29-30 in last years regular season standings in this category.

Allowing 50% on 3rd down conversion is poor. For Week 1 nfl.com has us at #25 at 46% (6/13). For the 2008 season, average teams were at 39-40%, 46% would put us at #29-30 in last years regular season standings in this category.

I saw somewhere that our defense had the highest percentage of 3 and outs in the NFL, or something like that. Just thought I would throw that in there